Couple of ID's please

[Chuckles]

I posted a photo of this on the Baskets, Pots and Troughs thread, Jilly and Ladygardener saw it, well I now have a photo of the flower it grows, do you call it a flower on a grass .  Its in the garden of neighbouring house, they are drooping on the photo but thats because the whole thing has been battered by wind and is going over anyway.



ID No2, while I was sneaking  the photo of the above I spotted a shrub that looked rather nice and would quite like to know what it is if possible, can't ask the owner as they are never there much, thats why I sneaked in The top part of the stem is very red and slightly hairy, flower doesn't smell but the leaves have a strong smell when rubbed, can't put my finger on it, not an offensive smell.

[Rosefriend]

I've seen the grass before but it certainly isn't something that I would know the name of...the second one is screaming at me, however it is the leaves rather than the flowers that I know Chuckles..

RF

[Jasmine]

That grass pops up in our garden Chuckles but I have no idea what it is - sorry.

[Tig]

The grass is carex pendula - it has taken me a few years to get it out of my garden, it self seeds like fury and forms huge clumps if left to it's own devices. I can cope with whatever the weather throws at it, freezing solid to drought.

The shrub looks familiar too, but I can't come up with a name for it at the mo

[chickengirl]

Hi all, is the shrub related to the daphne odura? It doesn't look like it has the right number of flowers though... I'm quite intrigued...

[andy]

The grass, as Tig mentioned, is Carex pendula.....an invasive water loving sedge. If you think you have problems after a couple of years Tig....mine's still germinating after 13 years !!!

2nd one....possibly a Clerodendron species. Do the leaves smell of roast beef ? do they send up suckers ?

[Chuckles]

Thank goodness I've got the Carex Pendula in a bucket by the sounds of it thanks Tig and andy

Clerodendrum trichotomum var. fargesii andy you pointed me in the right direction, thanks.

www.pepinierenaegely.fr/NAEGELY/images/produits/Clerodendrum%20trichotomum%20var.%20fargesii%20GP.jpg

I'm intrigued now chickengirl, can't believe the colour of the berries it produces  www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/clerodendrum-trichotomum/classid.933/

The leaves do have a strong smell when rubbed but I couldn't put my finger on what it was  they say the flowers are scented but I'm not getting anything from the cutting I borrowed maybe if I stuck my nose on the bush I might smell it.

andy I'd thought about trying to get a cutting going.  I don't do large shrubs in the garden though, what do you think of it surviving in a large pot

[andy]

Yeah possibly Chuckles. You might be able to go along the same lines as tub grown Catalpa. Clerodendron are quite vigorous and some (not sure if all) species send up loads of suckers. I would imagine they would root well from cuttings so give it a go

[Rosefriend]

A Clerodendron  was definitely not what I was thinking of Chuckles - heaven knows what I thought it was, pleased that Andy sorted it out.

RF

[chickengirl]

oh my goodness, it looks fabulous! Well done andy and lucky you Chuckles, a lovely addition to the garden. The berries in particular are very exotic and unusual.

[Jasmine]

andy, what do you mean about going along the same lines as a tub grown catalpa. I've got a catalpa and after wanting one badly have no idea where to put it Will it grow in a pot - do you have to do anything special?

[Chuckles]

Thanks for your help and interest on these ID's Tig Jasmine chickengirl andy and Rosefriend

The berries are great aren't they, such an unusual colour and will be a nice bit of interest late in the season.  After doing a bit more reading last night I found it said when crushed the leaves smell like peanut butter.  I've just been sneaking on the bush again, stuck my nose in and the flowers have that heady Jasmine flower scent, divine, love it even more now.  As far as I could see there are no suckers about, thankfully.  Its quite a large bush 4' x 4', I've borrowed 3 more cuttings while I was there so now have 4 to play with off to pot them up now

[andy]

Aug 21, 2013 8:04:45 GMT Jasmine said:

andy, what do you mean about going along the same lines as a tub grown catalpa. I've got a catalpa and after wanting one badly have no idea where to put it Will it grow in a pot - do you have to do anything special?

Catalpas, Clerodendrons and Pauwlonias are all suitable for large tubs Jas.  You cut them hard back each winter to maybe a foot high and they produce lots of lush foliage with huge leaves.  This is however, at the expense of the flowers.

[andy]

Aug 21, 2013 8:26:03 GMT Chuckles said:

.  After doing a bit more reading last night I found it said when crushed the leaves smell like peanut butter. 

Roast beef....allegedly !!!!   I think the smell is offensive...bloody offensive lol

[Jasmine]

Thanks for the info andy - it was the flowers that I was after really so I may just have to make a decision and get it planted in the ground!

[Chuckles]

I was going to suggest you did some selective pruning as it grows Jasmine but if this apps.rhs.org.uk/plantselector/plant?plantid=2294 is what you have you've got no hope

If my clerodendrum trichotomum cuttings take I'll definately keep it in a large pot and see how it goes but I'm only looking at Height and Spread - 5 - 6m (15-20ft).

Strange smell isn't it andy, think I'll not be touching the leaves to often

[Jasmine]

That's the one Chuckles! However, as it's going to take 20-50 years to get to maturity I won't have to worry about the final size!

[Geranium]

Please would someone help with ID-ing these? I can't remember what they're called. They're both in flower now.


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[andy]

Not sure about the first one.....Campanula ? Penstemon ?

Second one looks a bit like a Commelina

[Geranium]

Thanks, andy - Commelina is the second one  - but the first one isn't a Penstemon or a Campanula - I have 'Scutellaria' in my head - I'll have to check it out on Mr. Google, and hope I find it, or that someone else recognises it.

[Jasmine]

Isn't there a clever app that you can take pics of things and Mr Google will try and find something similar in the bank of images

[Geranium]

Is there? If you find out about it, I'll be pleased to know, Jasmine, although my photos are all on my laptop and the ap would be on my iPad, so that plan is a no-go, I'm afraid, on second thoughts. Hmmmm...unless I try taking photos with my iPad - I haven't yet.

[Jasmine]

I will try and find out when I see the boys' IT minded friend in the new term Geranium - it was him that told me about it.

[Geranium]

Thanks, Jasmine.

After some research, I think the first plant is a Scutellaria incana - it's a lot prettier than the photo shows.