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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 14, 2016 9:41:55 GMT
My 6 x 6 is in a bad way and I shall have to get another one in autumn or spring Barbara but I cannot get another one as well - there is no room to put one...I have somehow got to find a way of protecting the outdoor toms - either with plastic or aspirin or gawd knows what!! |
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Post by Dutchy on Aug 21, 2016 9:20:31 GMT
How did I miss this all. Ah well I am glad I found this. So does aspirin work for the full resistance to illness in tomatoes was my question. I thought I had blight but I was wrong, fortunately. It is grey or brown mould. After chatting to Rosefriend I will go for the aspirine next year as she says yes and I consider her and her FB tomato clan as the most knowledgeable in my book. Gosh all I need now is some sound advice on how to best clean my GH. I used to do it with green soap and water and then replace the soil. But I got the mould again. Might use the aspirine on me therefore... Mind you I do take it every day but only 50mg which is half the smallest tablet they have. Using over 80mg per day is considered unhealthy. I started on it after my Breast-cancer as my dad died of colon cancer and the thought of maybe getting that too scared me big time. ( do be careful though aspirin is not a simple bit of extra and the anti colon cancer tests were on a daily intake of no more than 80 mg. ) I then found it helped me with my poor chemotherapy veins so I still use it to keep my blood running well and my fingers warmer. There we were talking toms and all of a sudden health sneaked in again. Sorry folks. I think, as RF says it also does well on tomato relatives, I will douse my peppers too next year. Ah and try not to accidentally douse the beans as they hate aspirin it seems  . |
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Post by Barbara on Aug 21, 2016 10:02:01 GMT
Dutchy, We clean the GH with jeyes fluid in the spring it's a tar oil, it smells bad enough to kill any fungus, I read that humidity is the main cause, and to help air circulate take off all lower leaves of the toms.
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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 21, 2016 14:38:23 GMT
How did I miss this all. Ah well I am glad I found this. So does aspirin work for the full resistance to illness in tomatoes was my question.I thought I had blight but I was wrong, fortunately. It is grey or brown mould. After chatting to Rosefriend I will go for the aspirine next year as she says yes and I consider her and her FB tomato clan as the most knowledgeable in my book. Gosh all I need now is some sound advice on how to best clean my GH. I used to do it with green soap and water and then replace the soil. But I got the mould again.
Might use the aspirine on me therefore...Mind you I do take it every day but only 50mg which is half the smallest tablet they have. Using over 80mg per day is considered unhealthy. I started on it after my Breast-cancer as my dad died of colon cancer and the thought of maybe getting that too scared me big time. ( do be careful though aspirin is not a simple bit of extra and the anti colon cancer tests were on a daily intake of no more than 80 mg. ) I then found it helped me with my poor chemotherapy veins so I still use it to keep my blood running well and my fingers warmer. There we were talking toms and all of a sudden health sneaked in again. Sorry folks. I think, as RF says it also does well on tomato relatives, I will douse my peppers too next year. Ah and try not to accidentally douse the beans as they hate aspirin it seems . Dutchy, We clean the GH with jeyes fluid in the spring it's a tar oil, it smells bad enough to kill any fungus, I read that humidity is the main cause, and to help air circulate take off all lower leaves of the toms. - I do not think that Aspirin would help anything that isn't "living" - logic tells me that it can't work on something that cannot absorb it...may be wrong, but... I would say Jeyes as Barbara says, if you get it in Holland (not here in Germany but I do have some) or Bleach/diluted or otherwise. This is what the woman in the USA said - she uses peroxide/bleach for all her pots etc etc... Humidity is the main cause in a GH of Grey Mould or Septoria...many think that both are blight which isn't the case... Going to move this to the Fruit and Veg board so that it doesn't get lost in Gardening Chat... |
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Post by Dutchy on Aug 22, 2016 7:54:41 GMT
Hm I have overwintering plants in by cleaning time and am a bit worried about bleach. My Physallis sits in the soil and I do not want to douse it with bleach.
No Jeyes to be got in the Netherlands.
Now acidity kills fungus. Maybe I can use vinegar on one side where the Physallis does not sit.
I think I have to cut it back anyhow and maybe putting a cloche over it while I clean will be the solution.
The overwintering ones can take some cold so could temporarily be placed outside during cleaning on a warmish day.
Any other ideas?
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Post by maglonian on Aug 22, 2016 8:14:41 GMT
Hm I have overwintering plants in by cleaning time and am a bit worried about bleach. My Physallis sits in the soil and I do not want to douse it with bleach. No Jeyes to be got in the Netherlands. Now acidity kills fungus. Maybe I can use vinegar on one side where the Physallis does not sit. I think I have to cut it back anyhow and maybe putting a cloche over it while I clean will be the solution. The overwintering ones can take some cold so could temporarily be placed outside during cleaning on a warmish day. Any other ideas? Oxy bleach is a great way to get rid of mould /algae and supposedly safe with plants. I use it to clean paths etc and to date the overspill hasn't caused any adverse affects on the borders it seeps into |
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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 22, 2016 8:17:01 GMT
Hm I have overwintering plants in by cleaning time and am a bit worried about bleach. My Physallis sits in the soil and I do not want to douse it with bleach. No Jeyes to be got in the Netherlands. Now acidity kills fungus. Maybe I can use vinegar on one side where the Physallis does not sit. I think I have to cut it back anyhow and maybe putting a cloche over it while I clean will be the solution. The overwintering ones can take some cold so could temporarily be placed outside during cleaning on a warmish day. Any other ideas? Vinegar sounds good, salt will kill bacteria as well and heat kills Blight...however you need over 40degC I think...blow torch, hahahahaha!! EDIT: Oops we posted together maglonian. Oxy bleach - now then - can you get DanKlorix in Holland?? Can be used in the Garden - here is the link with amounts... www.danklorix.de/tipps_garten.phpVery good and reduces to Water, Oxygen and Salt - here is the German bumpf... "Der Wirkstoff Natriumhypochlorit zerfällt schon während der Anwendung zu Wasser, Sauerstoff und etwas Kochsalz.
Die in DanKlorix enthaltenen Alkalien werden bereits im Abwasser neutralisiert und die Tenside sind ebenfalls biologisch abbaubar gemäß EU-Detergenzienverordnung.
Das Flaschenmaterial Polyethylen ist wieder verwertbar und ist auf der Deponie grundwasserneutral."
You can even use it for disinfecting toothbrushes...think I'd rather buy a new one actually. |
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Post by Barbara on Aug 22, 2016 11:50:58 GMT
Me too Rosefriend, would coal tar soap be any good for the GH cleaning Dutchy, always assuming you can get that over there. |
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Post by Dutchy on Aug 23, 2016 6:58:52 GMT
Looks like I have plenty of options now, thanks peeps.
Question though. Is Oxyaction something similar to the stuff you are talking about?
No Danklorix here and no tar soap either but with them in mind I might find an alternative.
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Post by maglonian on Aug 23, 2016 8:19:44 GMT
Oxyaction - Vanish - own brand oxy bleach - all do the same job. The cheaper ones just as good as the expensive ones in my eyes.
Another possibly good way is good old fashioned steam ?. You get some good deals these days on hand held steam cleaners and all suitable for glass with window cleaning attachments etc so should be ok on greenhouse glass but maybe not on polycarbonate ?
Also the added benefit of jets of steam to get into hard to reach/ tight spaces. But all dependent on a 'leccy supply close by
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 12, 2017 14:52:12 GMT
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 13, 2017 7:25:53 GMT
Interesting indeed Rosefriend, You'll be spraying anyhow won't you? |
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Post by Ron on Mar 15, 2017 11:06:26 GMT
Interesting thread. Just googled actinovate - £859 + tax for 18 ounces. I'd need aspirin and paracetamol for the damage my wife did to my head if I spent that  I know this is an old post but reading through the thread and it gave me a laugh  |
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Post by Ron on Mar 15, 2017 11:22:32 GMT
It's very interesting, Rosefriend, and seems worth doing. As potatoes are related to tomatoes, I wonder if it might help them. I remember you don't grow potatoes in case blight spreads to your tomatoes from them. Did you know that petunias are from the same family? I don't know if they get blight but possibly you should keep them away from your tomatoes if you grow them! |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 15, 2017 18:08:03 GMT
It's very interesting, Rosefriend, and seems worth doing. As potatoes are related to tomatoes, I wonder if it might help them. I remember you don't grow potatoes in case blight spreads to your tomatoes from them. Did you know that petunias are from the same family? I don't know if they get blight but possibly you should keep them away from your tomatoes if you grow them! It may well help potatoes - I don't know - tomatoes very often get late blight from spuds though. Aspirin put in a hole and dissolved would be taken up by the roots to the plants - what happens to spuds - do they get a double dose because they are underground?? Yes I did know about Petunias being in the same family, - only by accident though. I was reading an article about blight and there was suddenly a part about late blight having been proved in tomatoes coming from Petunias but only in a GH. That got me interested in what was a pretty boring scientific article and I read it to the end... It doesn't seem to have too much effect when in the open- only in GH's... |
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Post by blc on Jul 23, 2017 17:26:07 GMT
Rosefriend, I stuck an aspirin into each of the tomato planters. I also stuck one in my miniature peach rose pot and one in the ground when we put the crocosmia in the ground yesterday. I got to thinking that since florists used to send packets or told recipients of cut flowers that they could extend the life of the flowers by adding aspirin, that it was worth a shot. Now. my husband went all over town trying to find 500 mg non coated aspirin. Nothing. The only non coated aspirin was 350mg. I figure anything is better than nothing so went with it. I also noticed that the leaves on the cucumbers and squash affected by he powdery mildew were early leaves so I think the nursery sold them that way and in the future I'll be a lot more careful. We went to a very large nursery very early, at least for us in the States in northern areas, April 1, and I noticed that the plants were infested with gnats at the nursery. I was prepared at home because last summer I had the banana plant and the mandeville outside and may have brought gnats in when fall came. My son showed me what they use at the labs gnatrol powder and stickies, you need both and I got them under control, but I did lose several plants purchased that day. My son explained that the gnats lay eggs in the soil, they go underground and eat the root system. That is where the powder/water mix come in and the stickies are for the adult gnats. Takes a while to do them all in. I kept thinking they were fruit flies, they were so annoying.
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Post by Rosefriend on Jul 24, 2017 6:30:57 GMT
Rosefriend, I stuck an aspirin into each of the tomato planters. I also stuck one in my miniature peach rose pot and one in the ground when we put the crocosmia in the ground yesterday. I got to thinking that since florists used to send packets or told recipients of cut flowers that they could extend the life of the flowers by adding aspirin, that it was worth a shot. Now. my husband went all over town trying to find 500 mg non coated aspirin. Nothing. The only non coated aspirin was 350mg. I figure anything is better than nothing so went with it. I also noticed that the leaves on the cucumbers and squash affected by he powdery mildew were early leaves so I think the nursery sold them that way and in the future I'll be a lot more careful. We went to a very large nursery very early, at least for us in the States in northern areas, April 1, and I noticed that the plants were infested with gnats at the nursery. I was prepared at home because last summer I had the banana plant and the mandeville outside and may have brought gnats in when fall came. My son showed me what they use at the labs gnatrol powder and stickies, you need both and I got them under control, but I did lose several plants purchased that day. My son explained that the gnats lay eggs in the soil, they go underground and eat the root system. That is where the powder/water mix come in and the stickies are for the adult gnats. Takes a while to do them all in. I kept thinking they were fruit flies, they were so annoying. After saving my tomatoes last year by spraying with Aspirin I decided to really go all the way this year... I soaked the seeds in A, sprayed the seedlings with A, planted the toms with one and continue to spray ever 7 - 10 days with A. The weather is horrible, so much rain and the plants are showing some stress but they are coping. |
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Post by blc on Jul 24, 2017 19:12:06 GMT
Rosefriend, I stuck an aspirin into each of the tomato planters. I also stuck one in my miniature peach rose pot and one in the ground when we put the crocosmia in the ground yesterday. I got to thinking that since florists used to send packets or told recipients of cut flowers that they could extend the life of the flowers by adding aspirin, that it was worth a shot. Now. my husband went all over town trying to find 500 mg non coated aspirin. Nothing. The only non coated aspirin was 350mg. I figure anything is better than nothing so went with it. I also noticed that the leaves on the cucumbers and squash affected by he powdery mildew were early leaves so I think the nursery sold them that way and in the future I'll be a lot more careful. We went to a very large nursery very early, at least for us in the States in northern areas, April 1, and I noticed that the plants were infested with gnats at the nursery. I was prepared at home because last summer I had the banana plant and the mandeville outside and may have brought gnats in when fall came. My son showed me what they use at the labs gnatrol powder and stickies, you need both and I got them under control, but I did lose several plants purchased that day. My son explained that the gnats lay eggs in the soil, they go underground and eat the root system. That is where the powder/water mix come in and the stickies are for the adult gnats. Takes a while to do them all in. I kept thinking they were fruit flies, they were so annoying. After saving my tomatoes last year by spraying with Aspirin I decided to really go all the way this year... I soaked the seeds in A, sprayed the seedlings with A, planted the toms with one and continue to spray ever 7 - 10 days with A. The weather is horrible, so much rain and the plants are showing some stress but they are coping. We have 8 tomato plants and just the one has leaves that want to turn yellow in the middle. Weird. When I used the epsom it did seem to help. Son said to use the epsom. Said magnesium deficiency can cause yellowing, especially if the yellow is on the edges of leaves which is what what happening with the cucumbers, again the lowest leaves. It made a big difference in just two days. But then that powdery mildew took over.  |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jul 25, 2017 6:11:55 GMT
Although I said I would'nt grow Tomatoes this year, I was given 2 by the plum man and one tiny seedling came from a neighbour. I've been spraying with Asprin every week to 10 days and so far so good. They were an old dissolving pk. of 300mg so I used 2 in just over 1ltr of water.
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 27, 2018 18:03:58 GMT
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Post by Tig on Jan 27, 2018 20:34:52 GMT
Ours are all 300mg tablets ...  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 28, 2018 4:49:14 GMT
Ours are all 300mg tablets ... Bugga Tig, then one is not enough - you'll need 2... |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 28, 2018 6:56:15 GMT
Boots soluble Asprin is only 75mg so be careful you but the right dose.  |
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Post by Dutchy on Jan 28, 2018 11:00:09 GMT
they sell 100, 300 and 500 mg out here so one of 300 and one of 100 should do it.
Or I suppose the 500 as that will dissolve slowly and since toms can stand aspirine anyhow it might be just as good.
I used 100 mg tablets last year and it worked inside but the outside Manx was in trouble. But then next-door had normal toms outside for the first time and did not remove them when they got affected. Thank heavens she decided never to grow outside again. Makes me feel much safer with my 2018 Manx.
Anyhow the Manx did in the end succumb and I took no seeds of it.
The toms will sit somewhere else this year and I'll see if I give them a heavy dose.
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 28, 2018 16:02:27 GMT
they sell 100, 300 and 500 mg out here so one of 300 and one of 100 should do it. Or I suppose the 500 as that will dissolve slowly and since toms can stand aspirine anyhow it might be just as good. I used 100 mg tablets last year and it worked inside but the outside Manx was in trouble. But then next-door had normal toms outside for the first time and did not remove them when they got affected. Thank heavens she decided never to grow outside again. Makes me feel much safer with my 2018 Manx. Anyhow the Manx did in the end succumb and I took no seeds of it. The toms will sit somewhere else this year and I'll see if I give them a heavy dose. , Barbara, Ladygardener, Ron, Tig, I use 500 mg tabs and I used more to keep the blight at bay in 2016 and it worked...I wouldn't even mess about with small amounts as the Aspirin doesn't go into the tomatoes for some reason - it goes into the plant and as it is a natural substance for the plants apparently it works well.. What I have realised is that prevention is far better than cure and to plant an aspirin or two to start with and then to spray on a 2 weekly basis with 350/500gr then it works - inside and outside... One thing I would suggest is to judge the time well before you spray. Always choose a point that the plants have dried out from the night and it is a good day and will dry out quickly in and out...lunchtime to 3/4pm perhaps...on a sunny day. ....same as removing sideshoots - always wait until the plants are dry and it is a great day so that the "wound" dries very quickly to stop disease getting in... |
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Post by Dutchy on Jan 29, 2018 8:07:01 GMT
Thanx.
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 29, 2018 8:11:40 GMT
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Post by Ladygardener on Aug 8, 2018 6:42:03 GMT
I've been using Asprin in / on all my Tomatoes this year and after telling the guy who works the plot next to mine, he has been doing it as well. We've not been spraying but added asprin when potting on into their last pots and water dissolved asprin once a fortnight into the feed. We both think our Tomatoes are really great and his especially (he's spent more time there ) in the poly tunnel he owns with the plum man and some others, are much healthier than those without asprin.
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Post by Dutchy on May 2, 2021 14:53:23 GMT
I know this is an old thread but am going for Maize this year and have taken the advice to soak them for 12 hours in water with aspirine in.
They also do camomile in the water but I just did the 100 mg aspirine which I still have oodles of.
Anyone done this before?
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Post by Rosefriend on May 2, 2021 16:56:42 GMT
I know this is an old thread but am going for Maize this year and have taken the advice to soak them for 12 hours in water with aspirine in. They also do camomile in the water but I just did the 100 mg aspirine which I still have oodles of. Anyone done this before? No but I have never grown Maize - I have heard of using it that way though, I have soaked Tomato seeds before now - many people seem to be using Aspirin these days... |
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