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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 16:46:26 GMT
Growing in my back garden, not sure what it is.......  It has flowers abit like a Salvia (but the stem is round not angled like a Salvia) and the leaves are abit like a stinging nettle in shape - but without the sting ;D Please tell me I haven't been encouraging a weed  |
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Post by beanie on Jun 23, 2007 17:07:41 GMT
I think this is a wild flower but couldn't tell you the name
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 17:22:27 GMT
Not sure if this is any help but this is my Nepeta (Catmint), it looks similar but the flowers are a different colour.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 17:28:20 GMT
Very intersesting, I'm going to get out the gardening encyclopedia and see if the Nepeta trail takes me anywhere - thanks for that. Should say that I didn't plant whatever it is, so it must have come in from a bird |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 17:30:59 GMT
Hope you find out what it is.
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Post by skarloey on Jun 23, 2007 17:35:59 GMT
I've got something similar in my garden that I grew from seed..... Can't for the life of me remember what it is though but as soon as someone says it I'll remember........  ;D ;D ;D ;D Not much help am I?  ?? ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 17:40:54 GMT
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Post by Slugger on Jun 23, 2007 17:44:01 GMT
It's a red dead nettle isn't it?
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Post by Slugger on Jun 23, 2007 17:45:14 GMT
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Post by MamIDdau on Jun 23, 2007 18:52:06 GMT
is it a phylleugguses or something? actually no... they have leaves more like fuchsias.
I dunno...
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Post by andy on Jun 23, 2007 19:16:22 GMT
I don't know what it is (this weeks mission to find out !!!) but i have some at work which i'm treating as a wild flower.
It is from the dead nettle family (Labiatae) which includes the sages and salvias...characterised by the square stems.
IIRC, they can spread by underground roots and it grows to about 15" high.
And it's a beautiful plant (In my very humble opinion)
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Post by Chuckles on Jun 23, 2007 20:50:21 GMT
I've got this and it does spread under ground, can become a bit of a pain  it has a strange smell to it if I remember too, rather a bitter smell. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2007 21:39:03 GMT
I think I may have found out what it is...... Lamium Orvala (Dead Nettle) Does that ring any bells with anyone? (Andy, if you find out different on this weeks mission let me know ) Actually I think it might be abit of a 'mutant' variety as it doesn't have an obvious square stem like a Salvia It does seem to be spreading by underground roots, bit's are springing up in my Miscanthus Anyhow, it's quite pretty and it can stay - for now!! Thanks everyone for your help GH PS Aprilaydee - I have a Phygelius which I class as a weed, thought it would be frost tender in these parts but I haven't yet managed to kill it off, that'll teach me for nicking a small cutting from a local historic house |
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Post by Spruance on Jun 28, 2007 22:11:21 GMT
I thought when I first saw this thread "I've seen that plant somewhere before". This evening I mowed the lawns, and guess what is flowering near the bird bath. <memorylikeasievesmiley>. The plant in my garden is an Agastache, which started out as a couple of plants and now appears to be taking over. I will try to get some photos for comparison. |
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Post by Jonah on Jun 28, 2007 22:30:30 GMT
Hi GH Does this help: www.floralimages.co.uk/lamiaceae.htmI think I may have the same thing, is it quite tall? Funny you should say that about Agastache Spruance. I've been nurturing some mixed seedlings and notices how some of them look very dead nettle leaved to me.  The only ones I've planted before are the silvery green leaved/ apricot flowered [Apache Sunset I think]. Don't think Agastaches are native, so they probably won't be listed on that link. |
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Post by Spruance on Jun 28, 2007 22:54:50 GMT
Well I know for a fact that my plants are Agastache, although I'm not sure of the variety. They do have a dead nettle/mint family appearance though, and are around two feet tall.
I'll try to remember to take some photos tomorrow or at the weekend.
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Post by andy on Jun 29, 2007 3:40:47 GMT
Do agastache not smell of aniseed when the leaves are rubbed ?...or am i thinking of something else
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Post by 4pygmies on Jun 29, 2007 6:19:54 GMT
I think it's one of the Agastache group too but I dunno which one - there are loads. I think Lamium leaves are slightly more rounded. They are from the same family aren't they? Agastache do have a distinctive smell - some people smell aniseed, others something mintier, more like Hyssop. The garden varities are called Mexican Hyssops.
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Post by skarloey on Jun 29, 2007 7:23:47 GMT
THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT!!!!!! SEE, I TOLD YOU I WOULD KNOW IT WHEN SOMEONE SAID IT!!!! ;D
I was looking at mine yesterday and kept meaning to go and look in the seed box...... but forgot! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 7:40:19 GMT
Hang on a moment while I go outside and have a sniff of the leaves.......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 7:50:28 GMT
OK...I've rubbed and sniffed the leaves BUT they don't have a smell of aniseed  They don't have any smell at all. I've looked at the stems again and they are square like a Salvia (obviously wasn't paying attention before ) and looking at the leaves I would describe them as Heart shaped, quite deeply serrated at the edge with soft(ish) 'hairs' on both sides. |
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Post by skarloey on Jun 29, 2007 7:52:51 GMT
I've just been for a sniff too and mine DEFINITELY smell of anniseed. They also have a very square stem.
Maybe yours aren't agastashe then.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 8:02:51 GMT
Skarloey/Spru
Will you post a photo so I can have a compare?
Cheers GH
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Post by beanie on Jun 29, 2007 11:07:59 GMT
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Post by beanie on Jun 29, 2007 11:10:32 GMT
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Post by beanie on Jun 29, 2007 11:14:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 15:01:36 GMT
It does look suspiciously like Hedge Woundwort.....but what an awful name  Think I'll call it Stachys Sylvatica instead!! The link says it has a horrible smell, so I'm going out for another sniff!! |
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Post by Spruance on Jun 29, 2007 17:33:59 GMT
Whilst I think that Hedge Woundwort is indeed the likely candidate, here as promised, are a couple of photos of my Agastache....   Then again, just comparing the plants on the screen, they do look very similar, so I'm not sure. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jun 29, 2007 17:48:40 GMT
Just looking at that photo Spruance ., I have something similar but more lilac /blue - perhaps it is also the same family.
I have just looked back in my records and although I also have Agastache mine is Salvia Verticillato "Purple Rain".
Perhaps there are other sorts as well.
RF
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 19:52:11 GMT
Now I'm really not sure , my plant does look very much like yours Spruance - particularly the leaf shape and the fact that is has the serrated edge to the leaf. It just doesn't have any smell - unless of course it isn't that strong. Does it smell as strongly of aniseed as Bronze Fennel (Foeniculum Vulgare)? |
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?? ;D
it has a strange smell to it if I remember too, rather a bitter smell.
The only ones I've planted before are the silvery green leaved/ apricot flowered [Apache Sunset I think]. Don't think Agastaches are native, so they probably won't be listed on that link.
They don't have any smell at all.
Think I'll call it Stachys Sylvatica instead!!
