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Post by Jasmine on May 5, 2010 14:30:06 GMT
Thanks again RF. I will do a bit of pruning if necessary when I get home this evening. I think it is going to be hard to find chemical black spot spray here now as it seems to have been replaced with natural sprays. I will have to see what they have at the GC. I wonder if some gardens are just more prone to black spot and other nasties like blight.  |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 5, 2010 15:11:11 GMT
The natural sprays are good these days Jasmine and a lot of people wouldn't use anything else....like anything you use, it is choosing the right time to use it.
More prone...mmmh - good question - a "rose garden" is always more prone to blackspot and co than a garden that has only one or two roses in it. At the same time breeders are thankfully coming to the conclusion that it is better to produce roses for their health, rather than just good blooms - see DA - their roses are renown for being unhealthy.
I used to buy anything that took my fancy - these days I am very particular. If I am going to pay high prices for roses then I want ones that will be their worth...old roses are sometimes very prone to blackspot but are still absolute wonderful. Oddly enough some of the old roses are better than the new ones....
I used to have a rose garden..now I have a rose/perennial garden and I am happier.....it pays perhaps to be choosy.
RF
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Post by Jasmine on May 5, 2010 15:54:55 GMT
I got that feeling from some of your other posts RF. I was a bit too focused on DA roses when I started introducing roses to the garden. Now I would just like my roses to be beautiful and healthy.
I am going to give my new spray a chance. I feel better spraying it about than the chemical version which I always worried about especially on a windy day.
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Post by Ladygardener on Jun 10, 2010 8:04:23 GMT
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Post by Jasmine on Jun 10, 2010 8:14:23 GMT
You've got buds too LG.  I am really keen to try more rose cuttings in autumn. I was surprised they were not too difficult to do. |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jun 10, 2010 8:43:48 GMT
I just hate having to throw anything away Jasmine, they were just prunings. I have some 1 year olds this year from last years prunings. Some of them did'nt take at all but I have a few that did. |
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Post by Barbara on Aug 3, 2010 19:20:25 GMT
I need advice please, I bought a climbing rose, called Iceberg a few months back, it's doing well apart from a leaf cutter having a nibble,  I noticed today that on the new shoots it has buds, are they alright to flower this year or, do I nip them off.  ?? |
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 4, 2010 5:52:54 GMT
I bought a tiny little bare root stick of climbing Iceberg in Morrisons in about Oct/Nov last year Barbara and it had a few flowers in early summer. I just let it get on with it - I don't know if that was the right thing to do. Since then I've planted it in the ground and it is growing well.
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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 4, 2010 6:59:40 GMT
I need advice please, I bought a climbing rose, called Iceberg a few months back, it's doing well apart from a leaf cutter having a nibble, I noticed today that on the new shoots it has buds, are they alright to flower this year or, do I nip them off. ?? No, leave them Barbara, Iceberg is a repeat flowering rose - I had it as a standard for years until a storm broke the stake and the stem off. It will be strong enough to cope with the second lot of flowers. Just don't feed it anymore - August is too late for feeding roses - the new stems can't harden off for the winter. RF |
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Post by Barbara on Aug 4, 2010 11:15:23 GMT
Feeding.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . Thanks RF, I haven't fed it since I planted it, I will next year honest. |
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 3, 2010 7:38:09 GMT
Bggr bggr bggr. I tried digging up OM's rose and it snapped off at the base. I knew it was in too shady and moist an area but I wasn't expecting this. And to make me feel worse it was making big fat new roots I hope the one I gave Rosefriend has better luck. At least RF is a good rose care taker. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Sept 3, 2010 7:49:53 GMT
What do you mean - it snapped off at the base??
It hasn't got a bud graft so it should grow back...you haven't binned it have you??
The one you gave me is double the size it was....erm I gave it a little rose food...it seemed to enjoy it!!!
RF
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Post by Chuckles on Sept 4, 2010 11:09:22 GMT
Oh no Dutchy, if you've still got it get it planted up in a pot and hide it away somewhere and forget about it. Fingers crossed it will come back for you.
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Post by Barbara on Sept 5, 2010 10:35:36 GMT
Should I feed the Iceberg rose I bought this year please.
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Post by Rosefriend on Sept 5, 2010 10:38:38 GMT
No - it is too late Barbara - never feed a rose after July at the very latest...they shoot up stems that just freeze in the winter...
In the UK start with the first feed around late Feb/March and then the second during the first flowering - no later than July though.
RF
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 6, 2010 18:11:46 GMT
RF snapped at the base as in below the top growth in the fumbly bit where all the roots are formed.
Doh I gave up on it before reading your reply.
What part was there to plant up again?
Just the roots or just the stick and leaves?
It broke exactly at the crossing point where rose becomes root.
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Post by Rosefriend on Sept 6, 2010 18:38:48 GMT
RF snapped at the base as in below the top growth in the fumbly bit where all the roots are formed. Doh I gave up on it before reading your reply. What part was there to plant up again? Just the roots or just the stick and leaves? It broke exactly at the crossing point where rose becomes root. Oooooooo Nooo - have you still got it - bung it in soil - it has no bud graft - it should and can grow back again... Even if it hasn't had water for a few days, has been thrown away, it still has a chance... RF |
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 7, 2010 8:44:01 GMT
Oops.
Well it is raining cats and dogs right now so it should be fine somewhere.
I'll see if I can still find it.
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 10, 2010 8:06:52 GMT
Found the roots and planted them up again but if anything will ever come out of it? ? |
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Post by Ladygardener on Sept 10, 2010 8:14:59 GMT
We will have to wait and see Dutchy. Fingers crossed. |
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Post by Barbara on Sept 10, 2010 8:15:18 GMT
Thanks for the info RF. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Sept 10, 2010 8:49:38 GMT
Pleasure barbara... Found the roots and planted them up again but if anything will ever come out of it? ? Well we can only wait and see Dutchy...there's the big fair at Herbs next summer, I can give you a couple of cuttings if yours doesn't make it!! RF |
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 12, 2010 12:40:44 GMT
Thanks RF.
So far so good, it is not rotting.
I wonder if it will try to make stems and leaves before winter.
I feel that if it doesn't it's goose is cooked so to say.
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Post by Rosefriend on Sept 12, 2010 13:25:00 GMT
Must admit that if we get another 3 months of frost and snow, I don't think it will be very happy.
RF
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 12, 2010 18:00:14 GMT
Not much change from where it is at at the moment then  |
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Post by Tig on Jan 8, 2011 15:25:40 GMT
OK hope our Rose expert is on hand  I've just rescued Arthur Bell (for the princely sum of 49p!! ;D) He's in a 8" pot, nice sturdy stump, with good green pruned stems and plenty of thorns - should I try and plant it asap or leave it for a while? The ground has thawed (I've already planted out a rescued azalea japonica this aft), but it is very wet and quite cold. Also, will it be happy in poorish soil which lacks moisture in summer and full sun? x Tig |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 8, 2011 15:32:12 GMT
Dunno about expert but, here goes...
Arthur Bell for 49p - blimey - I wish!!
Anyway it is a sturdy rose and in theory you can plant a rose at any time from a pot as long as there is no frost in the ground. Is the frost gone totally, even at a depth??
I personally would leave it in a sheltered area (where was it before?) and as it is happy and healthy, I would plant it in Spring when it is warmer - it won't like the wet and cold soil very much.
You will have to feed it no matter what and make sure that the bud grafting is below the soil (!!) - a mature rose can go well with little moisture - just water it now and again until it settles in.
I only water my roses in the first year unless we have a drought - sort of 30-40C for a few weeks.
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 8, 2011 15:37:24 GMT
What a bargain Tig! ;D
Could I ask an opinion...
Wyevales had Rosa Albertine reduced. I know it only flowers once but it sounds like it might be one of those roses that are worth having even though it doesn't repeat flower.
Does anyone else have it?
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 8, 2011 15:42:52 GMT
Rose Albertine is a dream Jasmine - I known someone who had it but it got too big for their garden - it is a 4-5 meter rambler and it also needs a bit of help to rambler as the stems are not too thick as far as I remember.
Worth buying though - well I think so.
RF
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Post by Tig on Jan 8, 2011 15:49:47 GMT
Thank you so much RF for your speedy response. The plant section at Homebase is in a 'frost' pocket and it is likely that the pot will have been frozen solid for several weeks during the big freeze we had. I am assuming that the rose is dormant at the moment, but as I say the pruned stems (about 6" long) are green and healthy looking.
I have put it next to the house and will leave it for a while then, oh and I will make sure I bury the graft on this one, about two inch below the surface? ;D
x Tig
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I noticed today that on the new shoots it has buds, are they alright to flower this year or, do I nip them off. 
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