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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 19, 2011 13:48:51 GMT
Roses are easy - just follow the way that I do.
Prune when the forsythia flowers...
Once pruned, feed with rose fertilizer.
Precaution spray for Blackspot, Rust and Co, twice in two weeks.
Precaution spray for insects, twice in two weeks.
During the first blooms but no later than June, feed again.
If you have problems - shout!!
RF
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Post by Barbara on Mar 19, 2011 16:25:27 GMT
The instructions on the toprose box say to feed after the first blooms have finished I think. And as it's a climbing rose I didn't think I'd have to prune at all.  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 19, 2011 17:37:52 GMT
Love it - then do what it says on the box...the Iceberg rose comes as a normal floribunda and a climber - I did not realise that you had the climber.
Climbers normally do not have to be pruned for the first couple of years...
All the best..
RF
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Post by Barbara on Mar 19, 2011 18:11:15 GMT
Thanks RF sorry if I'm giving you a headache. ;D
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Post by Chuckles on Apr 19, 2011 19:20:49 GMT
As I was packing up the garden tonight and just generally looking about as you do ;D I spotted something had been eating at one of my roses. All 3 leaves look like they have been nibbled at the end  Then I noticed on the same rose this  very odd.  |
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Post by Spruance on Apr 19, 2011 20:17:52 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 20, 2011 4:00:17 GMT
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Post by Chuckles on Apr 23, 2011 16:15:21 GMT
I've had a good scout about and can't see anything and no more have appeared. What foxed me was the edges didn't look raw if you now what I mean, mind you I suppose plants have their own healing properties.
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 24, 2011 6:23:14 GMT
The only other thing that I can think of is a lack of some mineral..I say that because I have just seen a Dahlia plant that is similar....think I have fed it the wrong stuff!!
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 10:13:45 GMT
Is it possible that some roses will never be free of blackspot - it can be in the stems can't it? I am picking blackspot leaves off my Iceberg on a daily basis (I have a garden full of DA roses that may get blackspot by the end of summer depending on how good I am with the spray). I have spoken to it severely and told it it will be on the rose compost heap of life if it doesn't sort itself out but it will be leafless before it gets any flowers at this rate. It is fed, watered, mycrocozzelled and sprayed like all the other roses. I don't know what else to do with it.  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 25, 2011 14:49:44 GMT
Black Spot as you know is a fungus and unfortunately it happily overwinters in the garden....normally all BS leaves must be thrown away out of the garden area, never in your compost.
The more roses one has the more problem with Black Spot, Rust and Co...
I always spray against BS before it has started to show - prevention is better than cure as once it starts it can get hold of a rose within days, - not to mention all the roses around it.
Just a few tips - make sure that you water roses from below at ground level, avoid watering in the evening as it takes much longer for the leaves to dry off.
Plant roses in full sun where possible and make sure that they are planted so that they can dry off quickly....free air circulation - this also helps with Mildew.
Remove leaves at the first sign of infection.
Choose resistant roses and as we all know DA roses are, for the most part, not particularly resistant!!
You must have a lot of BS in the garden because Iceberg is a pretty good resistant rose and when I had it it was one of the last to get any problems.
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 17:26:41 GMT
BS is a bit of a fight each year RF but if I spray regularly then I can usually beat it into submission til much later in the season. The biggest problem is my one and only neighbour has roses and doesn't treat for BS and hers are riddled with it so it's a bit of a losing battle. I just wondered if it is pointless keeping Iceberg - could it be that a rose is more susceptable for some reason |
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 25, 2011 17:32:49 GMT
As I said before Iceberg is pretty good against BS - there is a radical way - only if it isn't a climber - well, even if it is a climber, but I think you will hit me!!
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 17:43:05 GMT
What, dig it up and put it in the council compost bin - I'm that close to doing it anyway. ;D Interesting point about whether it really is Iceberg - it had one or two flowers last year but they certainly didn't look as beautiful as Tig's pics of hers. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 25, 2011 17:49:16 GMT
What, dig it up and put it in the council compost bin - I'm that close to doing it anyway. ;D Interesting point about whether it really is Iceberg - it had one or two flowers last year but they certainly didn't look as beautiful as Tig's pics of hers. Last way before the council compost get it is to cut it back to 3 eyes over the bud graft...radical...you can still do it now. Then start spraying it as soon as the new growth appears... Feed it - only once, and not at all if you already have....with any luck it will make a wonderful new plant!! RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 17:53:36 GMT
Is the bud graft the knobbly bit at the base of the plant?
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 25, 2011 18:04:12 GMT
Yes and it should be 5cms under the ground...
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 18:15:10 GMT
Thank you - off to do that now.  |
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 18:28:07 GMT
No black spot left now! Thanks for the advice RF. It is cut back, mulched and sprayed - I didn't feed it as I'd done that a few weeks ago.
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Post by Chuckles on Apr 25, 2011 18:35:23 GMT
I can confirm an IB climber responds well to a good hacking back Jasmine ;D I did mine as I'd severly neglected it and it was growing where I didn't want it to. I got loads of new shoots grow from the older wood too. A friend has one which is actually a cutting from mine and she also hacked hers back, no problem.
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 18:37:39 GMT
Thanks Chuckles - it looks very stumpy and bald now but this is make or break for it - I am not dealing with BS in April!
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 25, 2011 18:41:41 GMT
Well done Jasmine - keep us informed.
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 18:48:22 GMT
Thank you for the drastic advice RF - I'll let you know how it gets on.
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Post by Chuckles on Apr 25, 2011 20:36:17 GMT
I've got a climber that suffers terrible with BS I think its called Zéphirine Drouhin, lovely warm pink repeat flowering and highly scented. If it wasn't so full of flower buds I'd give that a good prune back, its so near to smelling that lovely perfume I couldn't do it. Could I let it have its first flush of flowers RF and then prune it back really hard or am I pushing my luck |
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 25, 2011 20:44:56 GMT
That's a tricky one isn't it Chuckles - Iceburg had no flower buds that I could see so it didn't feel too bad cutting it right back.
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 26, 2011 5:16:34 GMT
I think you would be risking things a bit actually Chuckles - the new growth isn't going to have a chance to harden off before the winter comes and if it's early as well....
The situation that you have can be likened to one of my roses that has frozen right back to the ground and still is showing no signs of new shoots...if it does start growing, and sleeping eyes on roses take 6 - 8 weeks to start growing, then I think I will lose the rose to the first snow/frost.
RF
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Post by Chuckles on Apr 26, 2011 6:35:53 GMT
Thanks RF, thought I might be risking it.
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Post by Ladygardener on May 14, 2011 7:19:07 GMT
How do you know if a new growth is another little bit of the plant starting to grow or a sucker. I have a climbing rose which I bought early last year and only ever had one branch from it. This year just beside where it comes out of the ground, there is another branch starting to come up. The main branch is doing great with loads of rose buds at the top of the oblisk.
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Post by Rosefriend on May 14, 2011 7:44:08 GMT
Not always easy LG as the old myth that suckers have more than 5 leaves, is just that - a myth. There is actually one rose that has 21/23 leaves...
I would have suspected that a climber had more than one branch anyway...perhaps it is making up for lost time...
Any chance of a pic?
RF
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Post by Jasmine on May 14, 2011 8:28:42 GMT
RF - I was just having a walk around the garden yesterday evening and Iceberg has some lovely healthy new leaves coming on it. Thank you for the advice. I did it to Gloire de Dijon too as I don't know how long it had been sitting in the reduced section before I bought it but it wasn't flourishing at all.
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very odd.
