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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 7:27:54 GMT
I have a confession to make...I am blaming the jet lag  The rose is actually called Bengal Crimson!!! How weird that there is also a rose called Bengal Tiger! On closer inspection neither of them seem easy to get now. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 7:50:51 GMT
I have a confession to make...I am blaming the jet lag The rose is actually called Bengal Crimson!!! How weird that there is also a rose called Bengal Tiger! On closer inspection neither of them seem easy to get now. Does this rose have to red - I assume you want a climber Jasmine?? I say that because I am trying to remember the name of a rose -...beautiful colouring...I even thought of getting it myself....give me a little while. EDIT: I think it could have been Summer Wine from Kordes and as it is from Kordes it will be exceptionally healthy.. I also have a faint recollection that perhaps Chuckles has it or had it?? Apart from the link I also found this: Tim Clapp of Mattocks Roses says, "If I have to choose a favourite that would come with me to a desert Island, it would be 'Summer Wine'. This is a wonderful climbing rose with semi-double peach flowers and an exquisite fragrance. It simply out performs other climbers time and time again, and easily matured the quickest when planted in our new rose garden. Semi-double flowers are not everyone's cup of tea, however this one has something about it."www.climbingroses.com/roses/browse8371.html?page=item&cat=13&item=250 RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 9:55:56 GMT
That rose is really beautiful Rosefriend and you are right - Chuckles does have it...or certainly did as I bought it after seeing a picture she posted a few years ago!  I don't especially want a red rose but it was after I'd read about Bengal Crimson twice that I thought of it for the garden. A friend has just had a hedge of rosa rugosa put in her garden (it is temporarily not there after a gardener they used went through a power cable underground!!) and a couple of those might be good for wildlife - I think they have good hips  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 10:14:20 GMT
That rose is really beautiful Rosefriend and you are right - Chuckles does have it...or certainly did as I bought it after seeing a picture she posted a few years ago! I don't especially want a red rose but it was after I'd read about Bengal Crimson twice that I thought of it for the garden. A friend has just had a hedge of rosa rugosa put in her garden (it is temporarily not there after a gardener they used went through a power cable underground!!) and a couple of those might be good for wildlife - I think they have good hips Rosa Rugosa is a good one for wildlife - a bit plain (ish) in a sense....what about 'Rosa gallica Versicolor' (Rosa Mundi)..?? www.classicroses.co.uk/products/roses/rosa-mundi/ or Rosa Glauca or Complicata or Rosa Geranium which is my very favourite. ![]()  www.davidaustinroses.com/german/showrose.asp?showr=223RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 10:18:59 GMT
That's a thought Rosefriend - it is shorter than Rosa Mundi and doesn't have many thorns but does have hips. Hmmm...I am tempted!! |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 10:23:56 GMT
Just edited my post Jasmine - remembered the name of my favourite one. RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 10:28:43 GMT
The red rose is pretty - what does this bit mean.... Farbe Rot It doesn't sound good but I bet it means nothing like I'm thinking! |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 10:32:25 GMT
The red rose is pretty - what does this bit mean.... Farbe Rot It doesn't sound good but I bet it means nothing like I'm thinking! Farbe Rot is "Farbe/Colour Rot/Red" - hahahahahaha!!!! RF |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 10:34:03 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 10:48:07 GMT
The trouble with the Rosa Geranium Jasmine is that it has thorns that could kill !! Man nor beast doesn't try and get through one of those roses... RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 11:46:01 GMT
Hmmm, the thorn bit puts me off a bit - I don't like getting shredded by stuff in my garden!
Fancy rot being red!!!
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 11:47:12 GMT
Hmmm, the thorn bit puts me off a bit - I don't like getting shredded by stuff in my garden! Fancy rot being red!!! What did you think it meant?? RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 11:49:51 GMT
I had no idea but it didn't sound very good!!!
If you said something was 'rot' here it would be rubbish!
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 5, 2014 12:05:04 GMT
I had no idea but it didn't sound very good!!! If you said something was 'rot' here it would be rubbish! Never thought of that of course - the pronunciation is different..sort or trying to say the "r" pursing your lips like a "oo". The "o" is not said with an open mouth , it is said at the back of your throat - ask your boys - bet they know. RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 14:58:11 GMT
I had a slightly mixed lesson but I get it now! |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 5, 2014 16:51:32 GMT
It's funny you mention a friend getting Rosa Rugosa as a hedge Jasmine. I've thought about it over the years and googled it several times. There's some near where I have the allotment and the scent is just wonderful. I've picked some and brought it home with me for a vase many times. They do have good hips and are easy to keep in shape I've read. |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 5, 2014 17:33:19 GMT
When the new Tescos moved into an old DIY store on the outskirts of Crowborough they put in a rosa rugosa hedge Ladygardener - it's a mixture of pink and white. I should imagine it's a good security sort of hedge - not the sort of thing you'd want to climb through from choice. |
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Post by Chuckles on Jan 6, 2014 11:40:07 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 7, 2014 8:28:29 GMT
It's funny you mention a friend getting Rosa Rugosa as a hedge Jasmine. I've thought about it over the years and googled it several times. There's some near where I have the allotment and the scent is just wonderful. I've picked some and brought it home with me for a vase many times. They do have good hips and are easy to keep in shape I've read. Yes they are Ladygardener but don't forget that once flowering roses have to be pruned after they flower and if you do that they don't get hips..... RF |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 7, 2014 10:02:56 GMT
Oh I see Rosefriend. You could I suppose work it out that you let them have hips one year and cut them right back the following year. I don't have room for them anyhow but I do love them. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 7, 2014 10:31:04 GMT
Oh I see Rosefriend. You could I suppose work it out that you let them have hips one year and cut them right back the following year. I don't have room for them anyhow but I do love them. Yes - if you want to keep them in shape, at some point, you will have to go without the hips... RF |
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 7, 2014 11:48:29 GMT
That's a pretty rose Chuckles. Several years ago one of the Dad's at school gave the school lots of roses (they were left overs from his GC I think). One of them was called Summer something and was very similar to Summer Wine and now I can't remember what it was called. It had similar flowers too if I remember right. I can remember thinking you'd need room to have 2 such similar roses but whoever bred that rose - it is good and healthy.
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Post by Ladygardener on Feb 3, 2014 7:04:03 GMT
When is the right time to cut the Roses back properly Rosefriend or anyone? Mine have been cut to about 18 inches and have tons of new growth on them, even The Lady Gardener which was pruned when it arrived and it's almost bushy as we've had hardly any frost at all this winter. I think they're all still too tall and was waiting until the worst of winter was over before doing it. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 3, 2014 7:47:49 GMT
When is the right time to cut the Roses back properly Rosefriend or anyone? Mine have been cut to about 18 inches and have tons of new growth on them, even The Lady Gardener which was pruned when it arrived and it's almost bushy as we've had hardly any frost at all this winter. I think they're all still too tall and was waiting until the worst of winter was over before doing it. Good question isn't it Ladygardener and I suppose the real answer is - "when the weather allows it"!! Here in Germany the golden rule to pruning roses in Spring is when the Forsythia flowers. The de-mouding up of roses is done when the Cherry flowers. Trouble is, these hard and fast rules are all dependant of weather, although if it is a mild winter then the Forsythia flowers early as well, so do cherry trees, so the rule isn't bad actually. This year, also here in Germany, it has been so mild that a lot of roses are way ahead of the time and we still don't know what we are to get - February can be a bad winter month. I also think the UK prunes about a month ahead of us but this year I would be ready to really cut back a lot of growth, otherwise plants could get too large. It does depend of what the rose it - HT, Bush etc. Your new rose will have been pruned back well and shouldn't actually need pruning again but if you feel it is too bushy then prune it back gently. If you feel you cannot cut back fantastic growth then be prepared for a rose to be a bit bare underneath this year - then just bung a pot/plant in front of it and camouflage it a bit. Remember that if you prune a rose back it will be around 4/6 weeks before it start to get bushy again. RF |
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Post by Ladygardener on Feb 3, 2014 9:19:30 GMT
Thanks Rosefriend, I think I'll do the 2 Angelface and Grace when I can get into the garden and the rain is'nt hammering down on me and the wind is'nt trying to blow me away. I'll leave The Lady Gardener as it's small and well pruned although full of growth. There are some blossoms already on the trees I've seen them on Saturday when I was going to the hotel for the meet up. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 3, 2014 10:21:55 GMT
Thanks Rosefriend, I think I'll do the 2 Angelface and Grace when I can get into the garden and the rain is'nt hammering down on me and the wind is'nt trying to blow me away. I'll leave The Lady Gardener as it's small and well pruned although full of growth. There are some blossoms already on the trees I've seen them on Saturday when I was going to the hotel for the meet up. I would leave The Lady Gardener as it is - full of growth sounds marvellous for me. If we really get something bad then it will still be fine even if one or two stems freeze back a little. It is amazing, even here , what is growing in the garden already. RF |
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 28, 2014 16:08:51 GMT
My Lady Gardener Rose that my very kind friends bought me last year was planted bare rooted in winter. Today when I was tidying in the borders I noticed that there was some die back from the stem the label is on. I've cut it out to where I think a new bud will come but the interesting thing is that the stem did have shoots on it but they'd withered and died along with a good part of the stem. The other stems are all fine and have very healthy new growth on it. I've given it some rose food mixed into the soil and if it does'nt rain tonight I'll give it a water tomorrow. Wonder why that happened.  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 28, 2014 17:06:35 GMT
My Lady Gardener Rose that my very kind friends bought me last year was planted bare rooted in winter. Today when I was tidying in the borders I noticed that there was some die back from the stem the label is on. I've cut it out to where I think a new bud will come but the interesting thing is that the stem did have shoots on it but they'd withered and died along with a good part of the stem. The other stems are all fine and have very healthy new growth on it. I've given it some rose food mixed into the soil and if it does'nt rain tonight I'll give it a water tomorrow. Wonder why that happened. No idea Ladygardener - could have been some Black spot, cat pee, the label could have cut into the stem and caused rot...there could have been a slight cut and frost got in...etc!! If the whole plant looks good otherwise then I wouldn't worry too much LG - I know how you feel though. RF |
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 29, 2014 7:30:55 GMT
My Lady Gardener Rose that my very kind friends bought me last year was planted bare rooted in winter. Today when I was tidying in the borders I noticed that there was some die back from the stem the label is on. I've cut it out to where I think a new bud will come but the interesting thing is that the stem did have shoots on it but they'd withered and died along with a good part of the stem. The other stems are all fine and have very healthy new growth on it. I've given it some rose food mixed into the soil and if it does'nt rain tonight I'll give it a water tomorrow. Wonder why that happened. No idea Ladygardener - could have been some Black spot, cat pee, the label could have cut into the stem and caused rot...there could have been a slight cut and frost got in...etc!! If the whole plant looks good otherwise then I wouldn't worry too much LG - I know how you feel though. RF Thanks Rosefriend, when I was planting it I made sure that the label was loose so not that. It could be any of the others but as you say I'll try not to worry, the rest of the plant is ok, it still has plenty of stems. |
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Post by Ladygardener on Apr 11, 2014 16:26:32 GMT
I wonder if anyone knows what might be eating the leaves of my Rose Grace. It has soft dull leaves and not the shiny harder ones of Angleface and something seems to like them. I know it is nibbled every year by the leaf cutter bee and there are some other marks on it as well but never razed like this. I've given it a good going over, even with my glasses on and I can't see anything that might be doing it.   |
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