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Post by Plocket on Mar 16, 2007 14:46:14 GMT
There is a simply stunning rose up the road from us which looks massive - it has pretty much overtaken an apple tree and overhangs a garden wall, and I would love something similar to grow over some really naff large shrubs outside our house wall. Would it be worth me asking the owner if I could snip a bit off to take a cutting? And if the owner agrees what do I do with the cutting?
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Post by fozzie on Mar 16, 2007 19:24:02 GMT
Hello P,
See you've been on the Gin again or was VATs this time?
In answer to your Q. Yes, either yourself or the owner just needs to cut approx 18" ot 2 ft. Or several cuttings at say 9 inches Not a lot on such a large plant. You should then cut into apprx 6 inch lenghts. (square cut at bottom angled cut at top, so you know which way up to plant!). The cuttings should ideally be pencil thickness. Now, you can leave the top leaf pair on, taking all others off, or you can take all the leaves off. I like to leave the top pair on. I also leave them in a bucket of water over night. According to all the books you prepare a V trench some 5 inches deep and line the bottom with course sand place cuttings in and back fill so only 1 inch or so is showing. Me, I just make a hole to required depths place cutting in hole fill hole with water (as planting leeks) then back fill with soil.
If you dont want to wait the 3 or 4 years for it to get to a good size then look at the following Bobby James, Kiftsgate, Rambling Rector and Wedding Day. I Have an idea which you will like and its possibly the last 2 Wedding Day because of the flower and Rambling Rector because of its name and "history".
Foz
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Post by Plocket on Mar 17, 2007 9:15:09 GMT
3 or 4 years!!!!!!!!! I might have to persuade OH to have a look at the ones you've suggested Fozzie - not that he takes much persuading where roses are concerned!!! ;D
Thanks for your help - I might give the rose a go (cuttings wise) just for fun but don't think I want to wait that long for a show!
Px
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Post by fozzie on Mar 17, 2007 10:43:01 GMT
It's good fun and you'll see why I'm addicted! The cutting will flower sooner than the 3-4 years but may not be of a size to cover the area you want it to. You'll be growing from seed next!! After that you'll be playing Prof Winston by choosing the parents and pollinating them. I'm slowly dragging you into my World (only joking).
Look at R.multiflora and R.moschata the parents of Rambling Rector.
Foz
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Post by Plocket on Mar 18, 2007 16:42:55 GMT
I'll be cross pollinating clems first Fozzie!! I loved your suggestions btw but think we might have to go for something slightly smaller - like your Moschata (which is out of stock at DA!!!). Can it cope with some shade?
Px
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Post by fozzie on Mar 18, 2007 17:54:09 GMT
Ooh Yes mines on a N facing wall.
As this seems to be a little chat between you and me. How long for Clem seeds to germinate? Are they as bad as roses? Anything from 3mnths to 9 mnths or more?
Foz
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Post by Plocket on Mar 18, 2007 18:06:33 GMT
Excellent! R Moschata is going on my wish-list then ;D
Clems vary a great deal - they should be planted as fresh as possible and some germinate faster than others. Tangutica for example will germinate in a few weeks whereas many species take much longer, sometimes more than a year. I know it's great fun growing seeds but for a quicker and more accurate result cuttings are better, and still satisfying. What have you sown then?
Px
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Post by fozzie on Mar 18, 2007 20:12:44 GMT
You know me P nice simple flowers its Alpina  R.moschata |
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Post by Plocket on Mar 19, 2007 9:21:40 GMT
Oh that rose is gorgeous! You know I like the simple flowers too! I'm not sure I can wait until November though which is when DA say they will have it in stock  The alpina should seed reasonably quickly given the time of year. Don't let them get too warm - an unheated greenhouse is best. Here you go: www.plocket.co.uk/Info%20Propagation.html ;D Px |
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Post by fozzie on Mar 19, 2007 13:57:28 GMT
Thanks P I'll spend some time reading all that info. Insofar as not letting them too warm. No danger up here in the near frozen north.
Fx
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Post by Plocket on Mar 19, 2007 16:12:41 GMT
No danger of it here either!!! I went out to re-tie Crystal Fountain, nearly got blown out of the garden and then it started hailing  BTW I've found somewhere that sells R. Moshcata online but with postage it will be in excess of £15 - I'll have to run that by OH before ordering. Px |
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Post by fozzie on Mar 19, 2007 22:44:19 GMT
That seems a lot P I assume it is in a container?
I've got 4 cuttings growing but only been in ground for 4 months so really not ready till Nov as DA. Otherwise I could have sent one or two
look forward to reading about your "darlings" schh nod nod wink wink!!!
Fx
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Post by Plocket on Mar 20, 2007 7:19:58 GMT
No more nod nod wink wink needed now Fozzie!!!  It is a lot of money but OH liked it so I ordered it last night! I think it was bare root too Still it's on your recommendation and OH can't wait for it to be in the ground and start filling out. I'll keep you posted ;D Px |
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Post by fozzie on Mar 20, 2007 13:36:23 GMT
No pressure on my little darling to perform then!
Fx
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Post by Plocket on Mar 20, 2007 14:46:07 GMT
Hahaha!!! I've high expectations now Fozzie How much can we expect it to grow this year then, bearing in mind we haven't received or planted it yet? ;D Px |
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