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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 19:07:38 GMT
We put on an extension on to our house and filled in the road way right next to the house and we forgot all about about leaving space for a climber.Is there any climbing plant that i can plant in a large tub that will survive.What size tub and what climber could survive......Robin
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Post by jean on Apr 30, 2007 21:25:56 GMT
what did you want to grow Robin? I am sure there will be the right size container somewhere  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 21:43:08 GMT
I was hoping to grow Virginia creeper so that it will match the other part of the house but I don't know if it will last in a tub.
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Post by jean on Apr 30, 2007 22:03:55 GMT
If you get a decent sized tub you will be fine. I wouldn't fill it to the brim but leave space to add manure compost over a few seasons. They are pretty tough so you shouldn't have too many problems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 22:04:19 GMT
A number of variables I suspect.....
Which aspect will the pot face? N/S/E/West?
It IS perfectly possible to grow virginia creeper (Vitis quinquefolia) in a large pot. It will be slower growing than one in an open ground, but that may not be a bad thing.
I'm not sure how it copes with the south westerly winds you get though.
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Post by Spruance on Apr 30, 2007 22:16:23 GMT
I have a Boston Ivy ('Parthenocissus tricuspidata Veitchii') which is similar to Virginia Creeper, growing in the aforesaid little soil, at the back of my house (west facing). It even has a tendency to root in the wind blown soil on the patio, so I think it would also be ok in a container. Have a look at this Crocus link Robin. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 22:26:23 GMT
I have a Boston Ivy ('Parthenocissus tricuspidata Veitchii') How very predictable! Considering where you live.  |
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Post by Spruance on Apr 30, 2007 22:40:02 GMT
Ah but I also have a Virginia Creeper too CPC, but that's lost in the jumble of clematis, ivy and honeysuckle growing through the Cherry Tree at the bottom of the garden. On balance I think I prefer the Boston Ivy.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 22:49:12 GMT
what is the big difference between Boston ivy and Virginia creeper?
It is for a east facing and it will be fairly sheltered...
I am open to all ideas but i would like something quick growing because it is a big blank gable wall.Lookin at you picture I have boston ivy and not virginia creeper ......I THINK
Thanks
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Post by Spruance on Apr 30, 2007 22:58:53 GMT
Virginia Creeper has fairly large leaves, and is supposed to be more drought tolerant, whilst the leaves of the Boston Ivy are generally no more than 3 inches across. Both are self clinging, and in my experience the Boston Ivy grows faster. Although mine grows on a west facing wall, that previous Crocus link says that they grow equally well on a north or east facing wall. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 23:01:54 GMT
I think self clinging is the way to go,but which one.
Have you anything in mind with a flower ?Spruance
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Post by Spruance on Apr 30, 2007 23:15:37 GMT
The Boston Ivy does flower but these are relatively insignificant. Not sure about Virginia Creeper as far as that is concerned. I haven't ever noticed any. Of course depending on the size of your intended container, you may get away with a climbing (also self-clinging) hydrangea, Hydrangea Petiolaris. This is also a fast grower, will flower, and will easily cover the wall, but I'm not sure how tall it would get in a container. Of course you could always opt for hedera (ivy), which is evergreen and would also flower, but it can can be rather rampant. I'm afraid that's all I can think of at the moment, but then it is past my bedtime!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 23:17:11 GMT
Good night, sleep tight and thanks for the help.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2007 23:24:57 GMT
Of course depending on the size of your intended container, you may get away with a climbing (also self-clinging) hydrangea, Hydrangea Petiolaris. This is also a fast grower, will flower, and will easily cover the wall, but I'm not sure how tall it would get in a container. My Hydrangea Petiolaris is I think 3 years in my care in a MASSIVE pot (300 litre?). I would not put it on the "fast growing" list IMHO. It is painfully slow thus far |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 1, 2007 7:39:29 GMT
I had a Hydrangea Petiolaris for 10 years until I ripped it out last year. I wouldn't say that it is quick growing either - however it wrapped itself half way around our garden shed and collapsed the roof - tough stuff.
An absolute dream when it flowers and I found the older it was the quicker it did grow but it sure does dig it's feet in.
RF
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Post by Spruance on May 1, 2007 8:50:42 GMT
Well forget the Hydrangea then. ;D I was thinking in terms of one that used to grow along my late Grandma's fence, and that one did grow vigorously.
Then again the one in my garden is not exactly shooting ahead, but it is in heavy competition with other plants around it - as usual!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 9:32:13 GMT
Back to the ivy then.Would a wooden barrel be better that a plastic one.I am thinking of water retention?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 12:33:19 GMT
Hi Robin,
I had to grow climbers in pots in my last house (concrete yard) and they did fine. Boston ivy is gorgeous but loses its leaves (like an idiot I planted it on the wall facing the kitchen window. Lovely at this time of year, but pretty miserable in December). What about passiflora caerulae - very hardy and loves being in a pot, and pretty much evergreen. Also VERY quick-growing, although you would need trellising or support. ... cheers ...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 16:51:15 GMT
that sounds ideal.......off to the garden center with me. yippie
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Post by andy on May 1, 2007 18:36:18 GMT
You should be able to grow any climber in large tubs providing they are waterd copiously in warm weather and fed regularly.....eg given a good top dress of farm yard manure or leaf mould every spring and given a weekly liquid feed.
Good luck and let us know what you get !!!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 20:20:32 GMT
Again I am thanking everyone for all your help and invaluable information  |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2007 20:06:59 GMT
It looks like I cannot put a container in the areas I want to grow a climber because it will be a turning point for cars.....so I have another idea.If I dig down as far as i can through the gravel and I get as far as 1 or 1.5 feet deep will I be able to grow a Boston ivy and will it survive?
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