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Post by Missredhead on Feb 19, 2009 20:15:51 GMT
will look for that then.
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Post by Tig on Feb 20, 2009 0:10:10 GMT
After pinching mine there are some lovely strong side shoots growing away now I must sow some more tomorrow and have a comparison (thanks to someone who sent me a few extras ) x Tig
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Post by Mowhay on Feb 20, 2009 8:40:47 GMT
MRH, your plants will produce side shoots without pinching out but it will be later in the season, by doing it now you just start the process off and in theory get more flowers, keep us up to date on your trial? And remember to cut the flowers when they are ready, the more you take the more you get
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Post by Ladygardener on Feb 20, 2009 12:54:34 GMT
Well since I've not been able to get online lately and I'm off this week on annual leave I decided yesterday to plant out my sp into their growing places. I took great delight in settling them into the back of the borders. ;D I've also sowed straight into the ground lots more sp to give a longer flowering season for them. Fingers crossed. The sp tops which I've got growing on are now out of the cold frame and on the windowledge. I'll be potting them up in a big pot by the front door when they are a wee bit harder.
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Post by Tig on Feb 20, 2009 16:52:32 GMT
Today I have sown more in pots and put them in the mini-growhouse ..
Blue Velvet x 8 Mrs R Bolton (Pink) x8 Spencer x 8 Tracey Ann (white) x 6
I can compare when they start flowering (have to germinate first of course!)
x Tig
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Post by Dutchy on Feb 20, 2009 18:50:03 GMT
Has any one sown Lathyrus chloranthus 'Lemmonade' before? On the package it says I should treat it just like an ordinary SP. It is not going to grow big at a max of 5 feet. I could not resist it as it is yellow. Is it a difficult one? www.sweetpea-seed.com/species/lathyrus%20chloranthus.html
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 21, 2009 9:22:15 GMT
I have never seen it before Dutchy - that really is rather nice isn't it. Let us know how you go on with them.
RF
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 23, 2009 11:09:34 GMT
Well I am now up , up and away - the first sweetpeas are through in just 6 days.
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Feb 23, 2009 12:22:56 GMT
Lovely looking sp Dutchy, hope it grows well for you. Rf well done, I'm happy to hear yours are starting to germinate. Lets hope lots more follow. Have just been out and fed the sp I've planted.
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Post by Missredhead on Feb 26, 2009 21:13:14 GMT
fed mine today with phostrogen like FB told me............
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Post by Ladygardener on Feb 27, 2009 20:12:43 GMT
these are the tops of the oct sown sp which I stuck into some compost when I cut them off.
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Post by farmersboy on Feb 27, 2009 21:14:36 GMT
They look very healthy lg,are they much behind the original ones
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Post by Ladygardener on Feb 27, 2009 21:35:11 GMT
They're growing well FB, their parents are in the ground now and instead of throwing them away I just thought I'd take a chance and pot them up. They were only the growing tips and length wise about 2-3 inches when Icut them out very carefully. Everyone of them seems to be doing ok for me and they're definately lengthening. I thought it was worth a try.
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Post by farmersboy on Feb 28, 2009 10:24:54 GMT
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Post by Sunnygardener on Mar 1, 2009 10:10:30 GMT
They look great LG and I have told me Mum about that. She has never nipped the heads off and kept them until now. sunny
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Post by Spruance on Mar 1, 2009 13:05:22 GMT
Well done LG. I must say that I was a bit sceptical when I was told about this by someone else, almost to the point that I thought he was having me on. I will have to bear this in mind for next year. My own SPs are still languishing in their original trays waiting for a certain person to pot them on. If I don't get it done soon it will be too late to bother with.
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Post by maggy on Mar 1, 2009 16:33:04 GMT
I didnt know you could plant the pinching out bits what a waste I just threw mine out the greenhouse door.!!! waste not want not ;D Ill know for next time.
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 1, 2009 18:04:40 GMT
Well we'll see how they do when summertime comes. I've cut the tendrils off with scissors so they use their energy to make strong roots.
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 7, 2009 14:57:27 GMT
Well so much for that. ::)Today I went to repot the tips of the sp as they were very congested in the plastic bottle bottom that I'd planted them into. (no pots free at the time) And not a single one of them has started to grow roots. As carefully as I could I replanted them into a bigger pot and gave them a little water. I thought that that since they're green and healthy, and it's been over a month since I cut them that they'd have some kind of a root system by now but no not a single root to be seen. They must be taking up nutrients through their stalks. I really want them to survive now but we'll have to see.
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 8, 2009 10:20:04 GMT
Blimey LG - no roots after a month - that's odd isn't it.
If you cut just under a leaf pair and took the leaves off before bunging them in compost, which is what I am presuming you have done, they should have rooted by now, I would have thought.
Mmmh perhaps one of the sweet pea experts can help...
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 8, 2009 10:34:10 GMT
It's really odd RF and I can't find a scientific reason why they're still alive unless they can somehow take everything in through the stalk without making roots. I did of course do just as you described. Very strange. I wonder what their chances are now that I've repotted them. Wish I'd left them alone now.
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 8, 2009 10:36:41 GMT
I think it is very odd, because as you say unless they are taking moisture in through the stem, how are they alive and they really do look very healthy. Are they showing signs of not being happy now that you have taken them and put them back in again??
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 8, 2009 10:49:53 GMT
This was them a couple of mins. ago RF. I think they're a starting to look a bit on the yellow side but maybe not, maybe I'm just looking for things which are'nt there. Maybe a feed?
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 8, 2009 10:55:56 GMT
Mmmmh I think they look on the yellow side as well and I really haven't any idea what to do. A feed, depending on what it is ,would get new growth but without roots can they cope with so much power.
They may of course just be sulking because you took them out - perhaps you could wait a day or so and see what they decide to do. In the meantime maybe other people will have some ideas.
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 8, 2009 11:04:46 GMT
I'm glad you agree as to their colour, was'nt sure if I was imagining it or not RF. I'll give them a few days and reassess. At the end of the day, I've not lost anything really if they don't survive, normally I throw the tips away when I cut them off.
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 8, 2009 11:16:05 GMT
Well it would be nice to know what exactly has happened. The only thing that I can think of is that that had their own little micro climate which was, of course, changed when you wanted to pot them on. Perhaps they will survive after a little sulk.
As you say you haven't lost anything but they were so healthy looking - it is still a shame.
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 8, 2009 11:21:17 GMT
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Post by maggy on Mar 8, 2009 12:37:55 GMT
When you put sweetpeas straight into the border do you prepare a trench? Ive been saving veg skins pealings etc; in a carrier bag rather than putting in my compost bin, I thought to dig a tench put all this rubbish in and plant on top will it work ? or dont I bother? Ive never had much success with them in pots.
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Post by Spruance on Mar 8, 2009 12:54:59 GMT
LG this sounds very odd as the plants were obviously very healthy in the original photo and that would suggest a healthy root system at the time. All I can think is that something may have eaten the roots. Did you notice anything in the compost when you repotted them?
I must say that they don't look so good now and with no roots either they are going to struggle. All I can really suggest is to give them a feed of something like liquid tomato feed, or if you're not bothered about non-organic, something like Phostrogen or Miracle-Gro.
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Post by Spruance on Mar 8, 2009 13:03:03 GMT
When you put sweetpeas straight into the border do you prepare a trench? Ive been saving veg skins pealings etc; in a carrier bag rather than putting in my compost bin, I thought to dig a tench put all this rubbish in and plant on top will it work ? or dont I bother? Ive never had much success with them in pots. Whilst it is not essential to dig out a trench it does make a difference as sweet peas are very greedy plants and so will grow more strongly in a rich soil. I grow my main run of sweet peas along the garden fence but in 2007 I noticed that the plants weren't doing so well. I reasoned that this was probably due to lack of nutrients so I dug out a trench around one foot (30cm) deep and the same across, and emptied into it almost my entire stock of well rotted garden compost before infilling with soil taken from elsewhere in the garden. As a result last year's crop of sweet peas was the best for a long time. So yes by all means go for the trench option as it is well worth it.
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