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Post by Rosefriend on May 5, 2013 8:04:53 GMT
I need a little help with what I can plant in this space.... I am sad to say that Rose Jasmine has gone - it wasn't happy and the last two winters had put it to the test - I think I could have saved it had I been ruthless and cut it back totally etc but OH was all for getting it out as whenever you walked past a thorn seemed to lunge out and grab you. Mostly OH but it is me mopping up the blood all the time!! There is a small rose at the front of that space. OH says he would like something "smelly" as it is by the terrace and just because something can climb it doesn't have to be a climber...a slender bush would look good there as well...but what...any ideas welcome please !! From the garden to the terrace..  From the Terrace..  RF |
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Post by Jasmine on May 5, 2013 16:38:42 GMT
Ah well, Rosa Jasmine lives on here! It is a right old prickly rose though! How does Jasmine do for you Rosefriend? I find we get lots of glossy leaves and very few flowers but it may do better in your generally warmer summers. |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 5, 2013 17:30:27 GMT
Ah well, Rosa Jasmine lives on here! It is a right old prickly rose though! How does Jasmine do for you Rosefriend? I find we get lots of glossy leaves and very few flowers but it may do better in your generally warmer summers. You don't mean Jasminum polyanthum do you Jasmine as it isn't hardy, is it?? RF |
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Post by Jasmine on May 5, 2013 19:16:40 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on May 5, 2013 19:25:00 GMT
I would love it Jasmine but I doubt it would cope with minus 20 and more, even with protection!! RF |
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Post by Jasmine on May 5, 2013 19:27:23 GMT
You're a tricky one for suggestions Rosefriend. It's got to be a plant with its own scarf and overcoat! |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 5, 2013 19:32:34 GMT
Yep it has to be - and woolly mitts Jasmine - we are off to Olaf's tomorrow morning and I am hoping that he has some suggestions... OH would love a honeysuckle but they get terrible terribly woody at the bottom - as it is the terrace it would look awful !! RF |
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Post by Jasmine on May 5, 2013 20:14:50 GMT
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Post by Tig on May 5, 2013 23:21:47 GMT
If you fancy a honeysuckle and want the most delightful scent I would go for lonicera japonica halliana. It is a vigourous grower, but it has no objections to being hacked back hard each spring, it is up to you to keep it under control, and flowers better on new growth. The scent is amazing and here it is evergreen. Not the biggest flowers but they start out white then turn a lemony yellow. If you can't get one, I can probably easily layer mine and send you a rooted cutting :-)
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Post by Rosefriend on May 6, 2013 2:55:23 GMT
If you fancy a honeysuckle and want the most delightful scent I would go for lonicera japonica halliana. It is a vigourous grower, but it has no objections to being hacked back hard each spring, it is up to you to keep it under control, and flowers better on new growth. The scent is amazing and here it is evergreen. Not the biggest flowers but they start out white then turn a lemony yellow. If you can't get one, I can probably easily layer mine and send you a rooted cutting :-) Thanks Jasmine and Tig - I have put both on my list - that Clem looks a lovely one and if I can hack the Lonicera back the rose in front would hide some of the worst...mind you that is pink - not sure how good they would look together - lemon and pink...why not - bit like an ice cream sorbet.... I'll report back later when we get back....a rooted cutting would be a lovely idea!! RF |
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Post by andy on May 6, 2013 5:00:45 GMT
What about Trachelospermum jasminoides. Evergreen, not rampant, lovely smell all summer, can be kept small
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Post by Auricula on May 6, 2013 8:33:06 GMT
That was to be my suggestion too  |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 6, 2013 13:48:47 GMT
Well. we are back and I got something - totally different to all the idea as either Olaf didn't have it or, and this was the case a lot, things were not winter hard...a minimum of minus 15 is a must for here and in a minus +20 year then a lot of things die.. Going in OH saw a Spiraea arguta which he fell in love with, so we took that...even though I knew that we would have trouble finding a place for it..  Then I saw Euphorbia "Fireglow" which Olaf sold to me with the words" watch it it can be a thug"!!  Then we started looing for something for the terrace and it was hard going for a while until Olaf suggested we try something completely different...erm - well we have. We are now the proud owners of a Vitalbeere (Schisandra chinensis) also known as the "Five flavour berry" as the berries " possess all five basic flavors: salty, sweet, sour, (spicy), and bitter"!!  I suspect that it will be a fight between the blackbirds and ourselves as to who gets them first but Olaf said I had to give it a try as he has also got one for himself!! Just as we were leaving he also gave me a tomato plant (only one that I haven't tried from his sortiment) - not that I need anymore toms. All in all a good day but it took an hour and moving 3 plants to get the Spiraea in place!!!! RF |
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Post by Jasmine on May 6, 2013 17:03:49 GMT
Well done Rosefriend - nice to try something completely different and like you say you are dealing with conditions which we don't have to get our heads round so well done to Olaf too for sorting you out...and adding to your tomato collection!!! |
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Post by Tig on May 6, 2013 18:59:06 GMT
Those are lovely RF - I have Fireglow, it does spread out a little but I wouldn't say it was invasive (yet, mine is about 4 years old). Dies right back in winter and resprouts in spring.
The schisandra looks interesting, can't wait for your opinion on their taste, not sure I would fancy all five taste sensations in one go!
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Post by Geranium on May 7, 2013 6:18:10 GMT
Good luck with the new plant - I don't know that one. Looks great though!  |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 7, 2013 11:19:26 GMT
Do you all know that feeling when you know/think that you have made a mistake..!!
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on May 7, 2013 15:22:49 GMT
Oh no why do you think you've made a mistake Rosefriend? Spirea is so striking and I too have Fireglow, it's a wonderful Euphorbia, I've had a few runners but it's not so far invasive. |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 8, 2013 6:13:31 GMT
Oh no why do you think you've made a mistake Rosefriend? Spirea is so striking and I too have Fireglow, it's a wonderful Euphorbia, I've had a few runners but it's not so far invasive. Well it's not so much the Spiraea althogh it hasn't really got enough room or the Fireglow but this new soopa doopa climber "Five flavour berry" - who knows it may be just the thing, but as I have said I bet there is a fight as to who gets the berries first - the birds or us!! RF |
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Post by Geranium on May 8, 2013 6:53:54 GMT
Think positive - you might be able to share them. |
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Post by Ladygardener on May 8, 2013 7:00:18 GMT
Honestly I would'nt worry much about the Fireglow being a thug, it's so lovely and the runners can be pulled up if they become a bother. The five flavour berry, something very different, great if the birds like them 'tho especially if you and OH don't. If you do, you're an early riser so I bet you'll get to them if you want to. It'll be interesting to see how they do for you, Olaf would know what would be suitable would'nt he.
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Post by Rosefriend on May 8, 2013 14:20:01 GMT
Think positive - you might be able to share them. Next door he has a wine that originally he was going to press - of course he is far too lazy for that, but the blackbirds still try and shoo my OH away - he does manage to get a few though - haha!!! Honestly I would'nt worry much about the Fireglow being a thug, it's so lovely and the runners can be pulled up if they become a bother. The five flavour berry, something very different, great if the birds like them 'tho especially if you and OH don't. If you do, you're an early riser so I bet you'll get to them if you want to. It'll be interesting to see how they do for you, Olaf would know what would be suitable would'nt he. Well as if the Five flavour Berry is talking to me - it looks good actually - really at home...!! Yes, Olaf has suggested some really good plants throughout the years.. RF |
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