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Post by fozzie on Apr 24, 2007 20:05:32 GMT
For example Cabbage how many transplants from seed module to final position in Veggie bed. I have been going from seed module to a bigger pot then to final position, should I transplant one more time before planting out or is the planting out relative to size of plant? Why can't veggies be more like roses. See Apples, pears and Plums no problem same family.
Foz
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2007 20:37:45 GMT
Cabbage? I sow two in a 3 inch pot and thin out the "weaker" one (well actually I pot on the weaker one). Then it grows a bit more and I plant out. All very simple compared to the care of horrible diseased, prickly, dead looking for 8 months of the year roses ;D
Or sow in situ and have no transplants (I only use the 3'' inch module to ensure germination and to avoid slugs. And because I have a very small veggie plot).
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Post by fozzie on Apr 24, 2007 20:47:29 GMT
Tank E Cap'n, for that insight. I'll probe a little deeper if you don't mind.Do you plant them out at a particular size like 6in or 8in or number of true leaves?
I think you must be talking about those man made abominations called HT (spit)
PS Please do not think me rude but should there only be one L in sulis?
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Post by Spruance on Apr 24, 2007 20:59:30 GMT
Hi Fozzie,
I tend to sow cabbage in a half seed tray, and then prick out into a 24 module plug tray, and from there it's straight into the garden.
I try to aim for a height of around 6 inches, which also coincides with what the farmers do hereabouts, although their plants seem to be in smaller plugs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2007 21:04:14 GMT
Tank E Cap'n, for that insight. I'll probe a little deeper if you don't mind.Do you plant them out at a particular size like 6in or 8in or number of true leaves? I think you must be talking about those man made abominations called HT (spit) I am a tease Fozzie about the roses.... What Cabbages are you growing? Personally I have them on the prep patio at the mo waiting for space to become available. The stage of growth doesn't matter, as such, but I think at 8'' they are slug resistant. Here - Some will go into ground that has been limed and truly stamped upon until it is as hard as concrete. Then a cover of enironmesh (very very fine netting) which will stop cabbage whites from laying their eggs. But I have to add that this is only MY way, not necessarily the only way  Others (given it is Spring) are sown in a line in a plastic trough and will be used as very immature spring greens. Really delish whether cooked or raw as a salad. Arguably the best use for those 250 seeds in the packet  |
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Post by farmersboy on Apr 25, 2007 7:11:53 GMT
Why anybody would mess arround sowing cabbages in pots or trays is beyond me,they are not tender,so no probs with frosts. There is nothing complicated with growing cabbages,just sow them straight in the garden.
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Post by Chuckles on Apr 25, 2007 7:20:26 GMT
As a newbie to veg growing I sowed my Cabbages etc in cell trays and then potted them on into 3" pots. Mainly because I needed to be sure on numbers of plants as I only have a small veg area Total now planted is only 20 and I gave away 5 ;D |
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Post by bagpuss on Apr 25, 2007 11:59:51 GMT
Great question. Can anyone advise me at what point I should pot on my courgettes please? At the moment they are in the propagator - the stems are almost and inch tall, and the two leaves they have haven't "parted" yet.
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Post by 4pygmies on Apr 25, 2007 13:17:30 GMT
The easiest way to tell is to look underneath. If you can see roots starting to come out - repot! Courgettes grow VERY quickly once they get going so you may have to do it a few times before it's safe to harden off and plant out. That's pretty much true for any seedling.
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Post by bagpuss on Apr 25, 2007 16:09:32 GMT
Thanks 4P. I'll check on them later. I think that will mean that I will need to pot on my peppers too.
Thanks again.
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Post by fozzie on Apr 25, 2007 16:28:33 GMT
Capitain,
We choose our crops democratically, this year Mrs F said we are growing Derby Day and Stonehead!
I'm all for a bit of banter re my Rose thing, its been going on now for over 30 years, I'm of an age now where all I do is smile, I no longer "bite" the bait a few years ago you may have got the following ...
WHATS WRONG WITH ROSES YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW 10% OF BUGGER ALL ABOUT THEM!
Its funny you mention netting for the last 3 years we havw really suffered with Cab.White on all brassicas so last w/e spenjt the odd hour or so fighting the wind (weather!) putting a net over this years brassica plot. I will try your firm ground method
Foz
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Post by fozzie on Apr 25, 2007 16:30:29 GMT
Thank you to all that replied to my plight
Foz
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2007 21:36:24 GMT
Fozzie - I apologise for the bear baiting. But as a relative yung un' it has to be done  But you are right about me not knowing -10% of rose growing - all HT's here I'm afraid  The rose I really wanted to grow and bought (very cheaply) for the irrepressible Mrs C has sadly snuffed it. As to why I grow my cabbages in pots before transplanting? I don't have 157,000 acres. More like a 4 metres (17') by 2 metres (6'') brassica bed. If one fails I effectively lose a 6th of my crop. Last October I had 3 dozen ready for spring leaves - Now due the slugs I have one (and I haven't nibbled any honest). |
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Post by fozzie on Apr 25, 2007 21:56:02 GMT
Capitain,
I have approx the same footage as you for brassicas each year 4 plots in total but rotation an all that, so every plant lost has a direct impact on food on plate. Having lost virtually every seedling in first yesr to slugs, everything but tatties and onions are now started in modules then pots then ground. Some like carrot stay in pots albeit bigger pots from seed.
Foz
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2007 22:05:58 GMT
Great question. Can anyone advise me at what point I should pot on my courgettes please? At the moment they are in the propagator - the stems are almost and inch tall, and the two leaves they have haven't "parted" yet. I agree - Pot them on asap! Props are for germinating (in human terms they are like a womb). Once you get seedling action get them the hell out of there. The "two small" leaves are their seed leaves (a bit like an umbilical cord) and don't really matter in the grand scheme. In the next few weeks don't expose them to anything approaching frost. And given the current weather they will be flowering in no time |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2007 22:17:29 GMT
Capitain, I have approx the same footage as you for brassicas each year 4 plots in total but rotation an all that, so every plant lost has a direct impact on food on plate. Having lost virtually every seedling in first yesr to slugs, everything but tatties and onions are now started in modules then pots then ground. Some like carrot stay in pots albeit bigger pots from seed. Foz Average minds (like ours) think alike then ;D I've never transplanted carrot or parsnip though..... |
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Post by 4pygmies on Apr 26, 2007 6:05:06 GMT
I have! I always grow my parsnips in cardboard loo rolls now and transplant them when they are nice and strong. I used to get really patchy germination and subsequently lots of gaps, which is very annoying! Now I sow a few every few weeks and have successional cropping. I don't think it's worth it with carrots though - we love the thinnings ;D
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But you are right about me not knowing -10% of rose growing - all HT's here I'm afraid 
The rose I really wanted to grow and bought (very cheaply) for the irrepressible Mrs C has sadly snuffed it.