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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 13:02:44 GMT
i have a corner of my garden by the shed that is still a muddy patch.
it is shaded by the fence and the shed and gets absolutely no direct sunlight all year.
i have planted things in it before but the problem is in the winter it gets incredibly wet.
it has puddles sitting on the surface of the soil.so nothing has managed to last.
the soil is clay and i have improved it a lot since i have been here but under the foot of clay is lots of builders rubble (new build house)
and then under that more clay.
what i need is some reccomendations of any shrubs that will withstand shade all year and wet feet all winter!!! with pretty flowers.
i have been reading in my books and searching the internet but not really found anything i like or is suitable
does anybody have any ideas for me??
thankyou
Bek.xxxx
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 13:05:14 GMT
Hi Rowan ... I have a similar patch where a couple of hardy fuchsias are thriving ... although you might still want to punch a couple of drainage holes through the builder's rubble, if that is practicable ... cheers ...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 13:16:35 GMT
thanks canary.
the spot is right in my line of vision when im sitting in the garden and it drives me mad that i have to look at it.
;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 13:28:36 GMT
Well Rowan, if this is any help, as well as two fuchsias, in the same spot I have a coteanaster growing against the wall (behind one of the fuchsias), a Geranium Johnson's Blue, which has only just got going but is now very happy and really brightens up the dark corner, an Alchemilla and a Heuchera ... of of which seem quite happy in these conditions (mind you, I tried a lot of plants first which were not at all happy  ) ... I'm sure people will have lots of other suggestions ... good luck ;D |
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Post by andy on Aug 3, 2007 16:22:07 GMT
Day lillies (hemerocalis) will tolerate sun, shade, wet or dry. Hostas, houtynnia (sorry bout spelling), epimedium, iris pseudocorus, carex pendula......you could even try some gunnera.
Just a few to get you started
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 16:55:39 GMT
thankyou andy.i am building up quite a list of things to choose from now.
i have a sambucus which i need to move so i thought i might put that in the corner then i just need some thing flowery and pretty to go next to it .
i do like the idea of having irises as i love them and have other types in the garden .you have given me lots to think about.
thankyou.xxxx
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Post by Shrubrose on Aug 3, 2007 17:47:27 GMT
for low lying planting that spreads you could always try ajuga reptans rowan. I have it in a damp and shady part of my garden and it seems to like it. The bronzy green foliage is lovely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2007 13:21:35 GMT
anyone got any more ideas.!!!!
thanks shrub im going to go look that one up.xxxx
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Post by Weeterrier on Aug 5, 2007 12:45:20 GMT
Rowan the choice is endless! Persicaria amplexicaule  Lythrum salicaria  Ligularia sp.  Iris  Phlox  Ligularia 'Skyrocket'  Rodgersia  Primula florindae  Hemerocallis  Persicaria bistorta 'Superbum'  Trollius europaeus  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 12:55:05 GMT
oh blimey .
thankyou.
goody goody more for me to investigate.xxxxx
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 13:04:51 GMT
Wow, Weeterrier, I feel a seed-buying trip coming on - specifically Rodgersia and Ligularia ... cheers ...
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Post by Weeterrier on Aug 5, 2007 13:17:48 GMT
If either of you would like some of the two Persicarias, let me know, they clump up pretty quickly. I grew the second Ligularia from seed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 13:36:07 GMT
Thanks Wee .... the Persicaria's are gorgeous, especially the red one, but it's actually the second Ligularia that has me salivating ;D ... was it reasonably easy to grow from seed? ... cheers ...
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Post by Weeterrier on Aug 5, 2007 14:02:22 GMT
I found it didn't germinate easily, but leave it with me, I will have a look to see if I can find a seedling. If I do, it's yours! I think I got three plants from the packet of seeds, more than enough of course, but usually I am TOO successful with germination.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 14:02:45 GMT
yes please wee one thats what i just put on the list to get.!!!
and im going to get some irises.
and then i will see what happens from there.
i have a few things i might move in my own garden when i have a sort out.
xxxx
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Post by Weeterrier on Aug 5, 2007 14:04:09 GMT
Sorry ADMIN, I think these photographs have grown, they were small when they first appeared.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 14:28:44 GMT
i really like phlox too so i am going to go work out prices online.
xxxx oh such fun.
i havent even strated the reflecting pool that i was excited about weeks ago.
(havent got the money to buy a half whiskey barrel so the idea is on hold)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 17:07:46 GMT
hello all i found a site that has most of the plants you have photos of weeone. www.lilieswatergardens.co.uk/catalogue.asp?PageNo=4&cat=A-10Bjust seeing if i can do a link. i had a look at the site and they have lots of plants for wet borders but when it comes to ordering there is a 10 pound charge for delivery although thats probably not the most expensive i dont have a tenner for a plant let alone for delivery. so the website is good for ideas but for me not actually good for buying.!!! |
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Post by Shrubrose on Aug 5, 2007 17:26:09 GMT
Oh Row - - cant you save up? Or better still, make a list and if you have some gardening friends (and you certainly have here and) elsewhere - see what you can beg or 'borrow'. Can you offer to exchange some plants? The only one of wt's that I have is the rodgersia and it's nowhere near that size. BTW wt, how long did it take to get that big? I've had mine for about 4 years and it's flowered for the first time this year. I was amazed. Your plants look wonderful and have given me lots of ideas too. Thankyou. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 17:58:28 GMT
gosh i do sound like im whinging on about having no money dont i. wasnt meant to be a moan just a statement of fact.we have no money for spending on plants!!!! have to go out and get me a high powered job methinks. maybe at a garden centre!!!  (not very high powered though) |
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Post by Weeterrier on Aug 5, 2007 18:05:12 GMT
Oh Row - - cant you save up? Or better still, make a list and if you have some gardening friends (and you certainly have here and) elsewhere - see what you can beg or 'borrow'. Can you offer to exchange some plants? The only one of wt's that I have is the rodgersia and it's nowhere near that size. BTW wt, how long did it take to get that big? I've had mine for about 4 years and it's flowered for the first time this year. I was amazed. Your plants look wonderful and have given me lots of ideas too. Thankyou. Shrub, you're doing well. I've had mine for 7 years, and it has only just flowered for the first time! I think it is a large species, my others, the same age, are half the size. Can you guess what I am going to say next? Yes, they are all Stolenoffa skippii. ;D |
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Post by Weeterrier on Aug 5, 2007 18:06:40 GMT
Rowan..........how very dare you!! Garden centre work not high-powered? What a cheeky whippersnapper you are ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 18:15:15 GMT
whoops. i better take my foot out of my mouth so i can eat my dinner better!!!! of course what i meant to say is that garden centres are the very toppest of high poweredness. lol xxxxxxx
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Post by Chuckles on Aug 5, 2007 18:19:23 GMT
Been having a think what grows well in my shadey bits, Ajuga, Lenton Rose, Lily of the Valley all definately grow better in the shade for me |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2007 19:14:43 GMT
thanks chuckles.
i like the look of ajuga
xxx
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Post by andy on Aug 5, 2007 19:34:13 GMT
I grow chinease lanterns in full shade at work (physallis franchetii)
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) ... I'm sure people will have lots of other suggestions ... good luck ;D
