SteveC
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Post by SteveC on Jul 21, 2007 13:30:21 GMT
Hi
A question for our rose experts. We have a York and Lancaster which hasn't produced a single flower (or even bud) this year. It's flowered in the past and the next rose along in that bed isn't doing too badly, but nothing on the Y&L. Looks healthy, lots of growth,
Any suggetions?
Thanks in advance
Steve
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Post by Chuckles on Jul 23, 2007 8:21:45 GMT
Mmmmm.... If you've not done anything different to normal I've not a clue why I'm afraid, need one of our Rose experts for some advice me thinks  Hellooooooooooooo ROSE EXPERTS where are yooooooooou ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2007 9:02:08 GMT
Going to presume you gave it a feed in the Spring when new growth kicked off. Is there any sign of rust or blackspot, or any other fungal infections that might affect the ability to create flowerbuds? I'd give it a good spray with something like Scott's Fungus Clear making sure you do the undersides of the leaves as well, but not to run-off. Give it a feed with appropriate rose/shrub food, and also check for suckers. As a rule of thumb, roses should only exhibit 5 leaves so if you have any branches with seven, cut them out as far down as you can.
Hope that helps.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2007 9:54:25 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on Jul 23, 2007 9:57:44 GMT
Hi Steve
Sorry I didn't see the thread.
I really am not sure but the York and Lancaster flowers once as you know. These roses should be pruned immediately after flowering and they can get a little fed up if pruned to hard - infact they can stop flowering. That is to say that you should be pruning around now.
The York and Lancaster rose is renown for being a bit lazy when it comes to flowering.
If you have watered and fed as normal I am not sure what else it could be. I hope that Foz sees the thread as well.
As far as 5 and 7 leaves as DG says - yes suckers tend to have 7 leaves and yes take them out as far back as you can or they will just grow again.
RF
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SteveC
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Post by SteveC on Jul 24, 2007 19:36:58 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. The rose is in a rather dark part of the garden, and neither OH nor I can remember how we pruned it last year! I shall prune judiciously this weekend and we can but hope.
Thanks
Steve
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Post by fozzie on Jul 28, 2007 20:09:06 GMT
Sorry Steve, attention diverted by Tomatos and the Tour, this finishes tomorrow so should be back in full attentive mode from then on.
Now your Damask, I'd be surprised if it was the soil condition that is causing the problem, they will perform on most soil conditions. It may be the light but unless its in heavy shade then again no real probs. Anyway you say its flowered there in the past. What is the rose next to Y&L
your Damask rose may well have 7 leaflets as mine does and she may be expanding through "suckers" so do not be too quick to remove any new growth within say 18-24 inches. Pruning, I would do the following, remove all thin twiggy growth on main stems, . Then in Winter say Feb shorten main stems by approx 1/3. If you have already pruned the do not worry. It takes a lot of hard work to kill a rose by pruning alone. I can only assume your rose has been there for a few years so is maybe 4-5 foot high, if so I may be inclined so skip the next winter prune and let it get to its desired hight of about 6 foot. AS previously stated feed her twice a year early spring and mid summer just after flowering.
Foz
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SteveC
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Post by SteveC on May 25, 2008 19:04:28 GMT
As this rather old thread suggests, our York and Lancaster was blind last year. I will confess we did nothing to it (no feed, no pruning -- it's been that sort of year  ) However, it's got loads of bud this year, and at least one flower has opened! The car port smells wonderful. (I will take the advice and prune appropriately once the flowers have gone) Steve |
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Post by Rosefriend on May 26, 2008 16:57:27 GMT
Hi Steve
Sorry I have only just seen this ......I am really pleased that it is flowering - it is a great rose. Any chance of a pic?
RF
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SteveC
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Post by SteveC on May 31, 2008 17:00:20 GMT
Hi Steve Sorry I have only just seen this ......I am really pleased that it is flowering - it is a great rose. Any chance of a pic? RF Two blooms  and loads more bud  Steve |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jul 1, 2008 7:14:08 GMT
Thanks for the pics Steve - this is one rose that I don't have in my garden - must admit that I am considering it. It may only flower once but it certainly is a beauty isn't it?
Are you feeling happier about it this year Steve?
RF
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SteveC
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Post by SteveC on Jul 4, 2008 11:53:51 GMT
;D
Much better, thanks! I still think it's in the wrong place, but we don't have anywhere else, so it will have to stay.
S
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Post by Rosefriend on Jul 4, 2008 15:21:53 GMT
Well it must feel at home if it is flowering - roses are pretty tough things but they can show their unhappiness at being planted where they don't want to be.
RF
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