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Post by Amo on Sept 13, 2008 7:35:35 GMT
You may be right Ali but they started a great thing with the hour long and there is plenty of other things they could of slotted in rather than putting Toby under pressure. I liked his going back to the botanical garden in the summer, but what had Carol, Alys and Joe been up to?? I'm just greedy for anything gardening!!!! I'm off to find those Japanese onions now   ;D |
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Post by Biggles on Sept 13, 2008 9:07:26 GMT
I have grown Japanese Onions--they are really easy--they dont need special attention- and they fill in the 'Winter' space in the vegetable garden.
I pulled them as they were needed- (in the kitchen) round about March/April time onwards--Bigs
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Post by Shrubrose on Sept 13, 2008 9:38:33 GMT
I loved it! Somewhere back to where it used to be - basic advice delivered in an easy style. Never knew how to use that lawn edging tool - he made it look so easy. Thoroughly enjoyed it!  |
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Post by snowowl on Sept 13, 2008 9:42:26 GMT
I loved it to and Toby is going to fit in superbly.I learnt something new last night to about the edging tool i have been doing it wrong all these years.
I like the back to basics theme to.
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Post by Chuckles on Sept 13, 2008 9:50:03 GMT
Blast I always forget it's on. Have downloaded it on the BBC iPlayer though but not had chance to watch it yet. Sounds as if it was good though |
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Post by Barbara on Sept 13, 2008 11:15:21 GMT
yes he did say harvest MY cucumbers  i said to my OH right away theyre not his ;D i have to say it was more like the old gardeners world last night, very enjoyable why did i always feel monty was PREACHING. |
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Post by Auricula on Sept 13, 2008 11:19:49 GMT
Have videoed it and hoping to watch it later - sounds worthwhile |
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Post by Chuckles on Sept 14, 2008 6:56:21 GMT
At last I mananged to watch it and it gets 12 out of 10 from me ;D Full of useful hints and tips (which he did say he'd do) useful for the newcomers to gardening and the inbetweenies also good reminders for more experience folk too. He packed some stuff into that programme really and he did seem a bit rushed to start with but soon settled in to it. Hasn't he got a very gentle easy to listen to voice and he's very relaxed and comfortable in front of the camera, sort of makes you feel like you are in the garden with a good friend. His old boss didn't look very comfortable in front of the camera ;D It's a pity the programme isn't longer really, I felt like I could probably do with watching it again incase I missed something. Would be nice to have an hour long one every couple of weeks Looking forward to the next one now |
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Post by JennyWrenn on Sept 14, 2008 6:59:05 GMT
You can watch it again, I do, on BBC iplayer
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Post by Amo on Sept 14, 2008 7:40:02 GMT
She did initially Jenny. See 5 posts up. That's why she didn't watch it on Friday night but on Sunday morning instead.
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Post by Auricula on Sept 14, 2008 9:53:26 GMT
I finally watched it - and excellent it was too!!! Hoorah for all concerned I shall be able to look forward to Friday evenings in the garden again - something I haven't really done since MD took over the reins!! |
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Post by 4pygmies on Sept 14, 2008 9:59:59 GMT
I enjoyed it too. He looked comfortable, his real pleasure in gardening shone through and he seems to have grasped that people want to see some proper skills and simple tasks demonstrated as well as more diverse stuff. I really wish they'd drop the chit chat linking though - it doesn't sound at all natural and it makes me cringe a bit.....bloomin' good debut, I thought ;D
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Post by Auricula on Sept 14, 2008 10:15:44 GMT
Yes the chit chat does sometimes feel forced and unnatural.
He has obviously taken on board the fact that viewers don't all have ( or want to ) silly money to spend on things such as obelisks which are only seen once,or plants which are discarded after a few weeks.He kept saying that things didn't have to be expensive.Perhaps the BBC does listen to its viewers after all??!!
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Post by flowersfriend on Sept 16, 2008 19:12:21 GMT
I love Gardeners world..... I don't care who presents it, its about gardens and nature and there is always something new to learn. As long as the main players are the plants and there are lots of different knowledgeable presenters with different styles and ideas. I'm well happy.... there's only thing that I would like to change and that is I would like longer programs and more of them.....
ffx
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Post by purplejulia on Sept 19, 2008 21:06:55 GMT
I must say I found Gardeners World rather boring this evening. I think Toby wasted a lot of time talking about violas and pansies. I don't think it would be worth bothering to make cuttings.
Carol and Joe were much more interesting but at the end of the programme I didn't feel I had learnt anything new.
The one good thing was that they were not encouraging viewers to waste a lot of money.
PJ
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Post by Tig on Sept 19, 2008 22:55:46 GMT
Hmmm - it went by very quickly again (I want an hour programme back!) Carols bit on seed collecting was way too short - bit of a waste of time IMHO  Joe showing us that he has been hit by blight - haven't we all (almost!) I wasn't impressed by sowing the teasles in the grass, what was that all about? Alys cutting the wildflower meadows - not that interesting On a scale of 10 .. only 3 tonight! I use my notepad as a guide to how useful I found the programme  |
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Post by flowersfriend on Sept 20, 2008 10:56:40 GMT
I am afraid I have to agree Tig and Purplejulia . The pansy/ viola business was too long and the teasle thing was a bit weird. Lets see what next week brings. FF |
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Post by Shrubrose on Sept 21, 2008 7:18:04 GMT
Well, it didn't 'grab' me quite as much this time round but what I liked about it was that TB's personality is starting to come through - he seemed more relaxed and I think his 'use what you've got and make the most of it' philosophy got a good showing last night More of that I say!! I did think there was a bit too much on shots of the pansies but the camera work around how you prepare them for propogation was good I thought. Cant help it, I really like him so far ;D |
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Post by Auricula on Sept 21, 2008 11:07:22 GMT
Yes I agree. I'm really beginning to warm to him and his style of presenting |
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Post by Amo on Sept 23, 2008 19:49:09 GMT
Well, I think it's sort of reminding us of what GW used to be. All the sweet peas, presenter named and hacked down by the new guy on the block. Going right back with the Percy Thrower bedding. I didn't know they could be such an exacting science!! But then I grew up not far from Bournemouth so took them for granted. I thought the viola/pansy cuttings was quite interesting and the reminder from Carol that some seed needs to be sown as soon as rather than stored useful. Also, though I don't have a meadow area as such, Alys's approach to the management was good. Almost selective contraception!! Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe. I know that wasn't staw he put under the pumkin but it did look a bit strange for meadow hay. Perhaps linseed stalks?? Who knows, it still didn't look robust enough. And tomato blight. It is now known that lots of people suffered from it. Gardeners World is an information portal. WHERE WAS THE INFORMATION?? I had it a couple of years ago and now grow under cover, I would have sprayed at the first sign if I had seen it and I now water at ground level to help prevent it. Simple measures that can help and even a numpy garden desingah! could impart that information onto the watching public. He's badly let himself down this past year. Over all, Toby was good (a little attention to the nails would be nice and a little less use of 'ya' rather than you, very AT 'mi' rather than my) and he needs to keep an eye on the camera man. At least I didn't want to turn off, which I often did over the past few years!!! |
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Post by Amo on Sept 28, 2008 7:46:52 GMT
Just watched Friday's and enjoyed all of it.
One huge let down, the bloody camerman again! Yes the sun was shining and there were a few arty shots but nearly all of the Berryfields stuff was too dark to see. The could have compensated better.
Just off to take the pelergonium cuttings.....
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Post by Tig on Sept 28, 2008 8:32:20 GMT
I thought the arty shots were creeping back in a bit! It was still worth watching though I thought they should have given an estimate of the cost of Joes raspberry frame, those posts looked expensive for an allotment! My Dad constructed his greenhouse part below ground to get more height, and warmth from the soil - although he used second-hand window frames to build his on the cheap (now you know where I get my thrifty nature from ) He did have drainage problems during long periods of wet weather though and I don't think that was mentioned x Tig |
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Post by Tig on Oct 4, 2008 19:32:52 GMT
Yesterdays programme was only so-so IMHO What was the point of Joe saying the one border where Alys was relocating the helebore to needed some autumn colour? Did they make suggestions whilst I was dozing off? The apple picking and storing section was a bit iffy - chucking them in a bucket roughly is not my idea of the best way to harvest them, and storing in plastic bags, even with pencil holes in, won't they sweat? We also had sweetpea sowing. Tad early? The blueberry growing info was of some use as I note that Lidl have them in from next Thursday for £1.29p (if they have any left by the time I get there  , so I need to buy two if the advice was correct. Not enough of Carol? What did others think? x Tig |
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Post by Amo on Oct 4, 2008 19:57:42 GMT
Bit stale. Just trying to remember what is was I was watching despite your prompts Tigs! That one must have put me to sleep big time. I do remember the apple throwing bit bit and wincing though. |
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Post by Auricula on Oct 4, 2008 22:46:49 GMT
I wondered if the sweet pea advice was a tad premature, but all the current gardening magazines are saying to plant them now I like Toby but think the programme was a bit "bitty" and left subjects unfinished |
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Post by Dutchy on Oct 9, 2008 7:47:24 GMT
The apple picking and storing section was a bit iffy - chucking them in a bucket roughly is not my idea of the best way to harvest them, and storing in plastic bags, even with pencil holes in, won't they sweat? x Tig Tig I was reading in a rather old book from 1987 by Geoff Hamilton yesterday. Guess what  In it was a bit about storing apples. Put apples in a ... plastic bag! and prick two holes per kilo. If Geoff advices it in 1987 who are we to judge the new bloke on the block for giving the very same advice now? We could of course call him a copy cat but hey he isn't bad I think. So there you are apples in plastic bags with 2 holes per kilo is a very old fashioned way of storing them ;D |
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Post by Tig on Oct 9, 2008 9:39:24 GMT
 If the wonderful Geof said it's OK then it must be  I did read somewhere that varieties which are prone to wrinkling do better in plastic bags - thinking of sticking one on my head (with a couple of holes in of course ) ;D x Tig
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Post by Dutchy on Oct 9, 2008 17:40:32 GMT
Erm Tig that is just for apples you know... We are down to expensive ointments that do nothing but boost the morale... of shopkeepers  |
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Post by purplejulia on Oct 9, 2008 18:17:19 GMT
If the wonderful Geof said it's OK then it must be I did read somewhere that varieties which are prone to wrinkling do better in plastic bags - thinking of sticking one on my head (with a couple of holes in of course ) ;D x Tig  Oh Tiggy you make me laugh! Just catching a moment on puter as son out and I have lent my laptop to a friend's daughter. She is using it for her theory test for driving exam. I won't get it back before the weekend. |
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Post by Amo on Oct 10, 2008 20:05:08 GMT
Well I enjoyed that one, despite Toby's 'Mi's' and 'Ya's'. Carol was good, she's certainly getting better, more relaxed and in her element!! And the allotment was improved by someone with knowledge!!! (Move aside Joe)
I was rather surprised when it was the end of the programme, please bring back the hour, but I didn't miss Toby 'tickling' me!! (How many times can you say that in 5 mins?!?!)
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;D
i said to my OH right away theyre not his ;D i have to say it was more like the old gardeners world last night, very enjoyable why did i always feel monty was PREACHING.
Joe showing us that he has been hit by blight - haven't we all (almost!) I wasn't impressed by sowing the teasles in the grass, what was that all about? Alys cutting the wildflower meadows - not that interesting 
, so I need to buy two if the advice was correct.
