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Post by oldmoleskins on Jan 6, 2009 9:27:13 GMT
I wanted to grab your attention - sorry if this would have better been placed in an existing thread - but occasionally you read something so 'off the wall' it's a shock. I read this last night and offer it in the full expectation I may be the only one who didn't know:
From 'Kennel Talk', 'Shooting Times':
Just 200g of chocolate can kill a 30kg dog.
Few cases result from owners intentionally feeding it rather than dogs stealing, but small dogs only have to eat small amounts to become profoundly ill.
Within 2 hours the dog may appear drowsy or hyperactive, and vomit. Treatment involves making the dog sick and administering fluids through a drip to maintain kidney function. if treated within 4 hours the dog can be saved, however if symptoms are advanced the outlook is bleak and in 10 hours the dog could be dead.
Haven't had a dog for a few years now, but I recall there were actually choccy treats sold for them at one time...
OM.
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Post by Ruthie on Jan 6, 2009 9:33:54 GMT
Chocolate is definately toxic to dogs. You can still get the "Good Boy" choc drops but they don't contain cocoa.............probably full of potentially toxic chemicals though.
I think we're lucky, Jake managed to procure a choc bar when he was a pup and, of course, ate the lot in 10 seconds flat. He suffered no ill effects thank goodness. He obviously has an iron constitution as he's only a little dog and at that time only weighed about 6 kilos.
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Post by Barbara on Jan 6, 2009 13:08:25 GMT
my daughters rottweiler ate a whole (stolen) chocolate orange on christmas day, he had no ill effects. but DIL felt guilty as it was her choc.( as well as mad with dog)
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Post by snowowl on Jan 6, 2009 13:59:10 GMT
Doggys and human chocolate is a defonate NO NO. I have never fed any of mine on any form of chocolate even doggy chocs. I know a few people that do give their dogs chocolate and it makes me cringe. But i dont say much has its nothing to do with me but i worry for the doggys.  |
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Post by prodigal gardener on Jan 7, 2009 17:02:28 GMT
Our two daft dogs dont like the doggy chocolate, they only like Cadburys  I never give dogs chocolate, but I know Karl does occasionally, I tell him off but he takes no notice. . . . Typical male  |
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Post by Amo on Jan 7, 2009 20:26:48 GMT
Some nuts and vine fruits are bad for them too.
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Post by Chuckles on Jan 7, 2009 20:59:07 GMT
I can remember the Goodboy Choc Drops, think thats what they were called. Have to be honest I've never seen any others on the market in all the years I've had dogs. Deep in the back of my mind I do have some recollection that chocolate isn't good for dogs but can't remember why  |
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Post by Missredhead on Jan 7, 2009 21:25:07 GMT
I had a dog that used to steal all the choccie that she could find, she would sniff out any from under the Christmas tree and the kids advents had to be kept in theirs bedrooms, although she did manage to pinch one of them,
She lived until she was 16 in human years.
I never actually gave her choccie but I know that the kids did.
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Post by Spruance on Jan 7, 2009 23:11:30 GMT
Having actually eaten Good Boy dog chocolates in the past, just out of curiosity I hasten to add, they tasted like stale chocolate with a wheaty after taste.  I have to plead guilty to giving our last dog both milk and plain chocolate, but fortunately he survived unscathed. Naturally had I known then how dangerous it was I wouldn't have even considered the idea. |
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 8, 2009 7:29:03 GMT
My GF's dog was suffering from shaky type fits - I asked her if they gave her chokky Oh Yes they said of course she just loves it - most nights in fact After I sent them some info from the internet about the dangers they stopped immediately and she hasnt had a shaky fit since It did say that dogs can get the shakes from over eating chokky I get the shakes if I dont eat it ;D Not everyone knows about the dangers - I did think that they should put a warning notice on human chokky saying "Not for animal consumption" but it may put the public off  Just going "off thread" a little sorry OM (I have been told off not to do this  ) My GF OH ate a whole packet of dog biscuits one night in front of TV - he didnt realise Think he was OK  |
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Post by farmersboy on Jan 8, 2009 8:28:14 GMT
Did he feel a little RUFF |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 8, 2009 11:21:25 GMT
;D
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Post by Ruthie on Jan 8, 2009 17:28:39 GMT
Just looked at Jake's choc drops and it says.....Ingredients Oils and fats, milk and milk derivatives, cereals, various sugars, minerals, derivatives of vegetable origin. It also says they are a specially formulated substitute for dogs. Normal chocolate can be harmful to dogs. And it says...safe if accidentally eaten by children. Spru. I've eaten them too, when I was a child, and there was nothing accidental about it |
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 8, 2009 18:06:11 GMT
Did he feel a little RUFF I was thinking of putting that at the end ;D They are divorced now |
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Post by farmersboy on Jan 8, 2009 18:16:47 GMT
Did they fight like cat and dog ;D
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Post by Chuckles on Jan 8, 2009 18:24:11 GMT
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Post by oldmoleskins on Jan 8, 2009 19:30:25 GMT
Good grief! Grapes and raisins too.
Noodle loves grapes...
OM.
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 8, 2009 20:26:32 GMT
Best to give Dogs and Cats dog and cat food and Humans to eat Human food ;D Cant believe Spru ate dog chokky  |
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Post by Amo on Jan 8, 2009 21:22:24 GMT
Good grief! Grapes and raisins too. Noodle loves grapes... OM. I did say!! I think you will also find that reputable bird food retailers (eg RSPB) who sell ground feeding trays now also sell a dog proof cover to keep them off the fruit and nuts put out for birds. I know Ruger will dribble after you until you give him your apple core (OK fruit) and he has swiped the odd dropped grape (not ok fruit) too. They do seem to like thier fruit!! |
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Post by oldmoleskins on Jan 9, 2009 10:12:15 GMT
You did Amo, you did - but it wasn't til I saw the word 'grape' that it had some resonance...
I can remember being amused at the sight of Noodle preoccupied with grapes and putting it down to some sort of fey canine vegeterianism, or maybe desperation for variation - she gets no real food, just some so-called 'complete' dry mix, and precious little of that. My dogs lived on real dog food - paunch, fresh from the slaughterhouse, complete with the bullock's last meal and throbbing.
OM.
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Post by prodigal gardener on Jan 9, 2009 16:14:33 GMT
My dogs wont eat fruit, they just shove it round the floor till its all dirty then walk away in disgust! They dont like veg either unless its off Karls plate and covered in gravy Our neighbours have a great big dog (I think I have mentioned him before) Its a Pyrenian Mountain Dog and he was lovely, but he aint very well and the vet said . . . . . Wait for it . . . . . He's anorexic !!! £150.00 they paid for that - how on earth can a dog be bloody anorexic. I've heard it all now. He wont eat nowt tho, and he is all skinny and losing his lovely bushy tail - its a shame, but I think I would change me vet if he was my dog |
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Post by oldmoleskins on Jan 9, 2009 17:14:24 GMT
Friends of mine have a 'big dog' KL - a harlequin great dane - that lives on a half-pint mug of some dry stuff three times a day, but it seems a poor way to carry on, though favoured by vets these days...
Is 'your' Pyrenian fed like that? I'd lose the will to live too.
I bet if they stuck a tin of tripe mix (better than no tripe at all) in front of it, it would wolf it down. It seems many big dogs only need a lot of grub while growing - a maintenance diet as an adult is less protein-rich and less bulky. There's not a lot of protein in tripe, but it's tasty - to dogs.
OM.
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 9, 2009 19:23:05 GMT
The dry food is very tasty OM - not that I have tried it - but it does contains many flavours of the actual meat/food itself My dogs have always had it - I give them Hills Science Diet Am sorry about the Mountain Dog  but think the Vet has lost the plot there He will say he has a viral infection next |
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Post by Sunnygardener on Jan 11, 2009 19:07:10 GMT
an interesting thread but the dogs that I have had have always seemed to eat what they wanted. I suppose you could have called them faddy.
It is interesting about the dried food. My vet wasn't interested in it really and my dogs certainly weren't.
At least none of my dogs ate chocolate.
Sunny
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 15, 2009 7:24:04 GMT
I posted a Thread about this - WARNINGS - scroll 15 columns down  |
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Post by oldmoleskins on Jan 15, 2009 8:54:58 GMT
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Post by MamIDdau on Jan 15, 2009 11:17:46 GMT
I used to eat the dried cat and dog food when I was little. My parents didn't know though, I was a secret hoarder...
Eric doesn't have any human food, not if I can help it anyway and he certainly would NEVER get any chocolate. Then again, neither would the OH... VERY protective of my chocolate.
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Post by Sunnygardener on Jan 15, 2009 14:58:36 GMT
I was talking to my Mum about this and she was amazed and said that her Dad's dogs (Border Collies) ate anything and everything from the house and she couldn't remember any food ever being bought for them. They were healthy working dogs and lived to an old age.
sunny
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 15, 2009 18:11:20 GMT
Some dogs are lucky Sunny; but it is best to be safe My GF's dog no longer has shaking fits now her boys have stopped feeding her chokky |
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I never give dogs chocolate, but I know Karl does occasionally, I tell him off but he takes no notice. . . . Typical male 
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