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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 11:08:16 GMT
Guys im looking for the no1 climbing rose ie fast growing, disease resistant, good flowers etc to cover the Pergola ive started building The reason i want a rose is for the security its thorns will provide as im building against the house and theres a window above
Cheers Steve
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Post by Amo on Jan 11, 2009 19:21:38 GMT
What size is the pergola? What soil you got? What way is it facing? What colour do you prefer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 20:04:53 GMT
size is 12ft by 11ft about 8 ft high, semi shade, clay soil any colour but pink ;D
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Post by Amo on Jan 11, 2009 20:34:08 GMT
That's better.  Now wait for all those suggestions to come in.  ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 22:21:30 GMT
;D Cheers Amo
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Post by Jasmine on Jan 11, 2009 22:21:46 GMT
These roses will grow in a shady position according to the information in my David Austin catalogue, they are all the ones that are recommended minus the pink ones: Golden Showers, yellow, semi-double, generally good disease resistance, grows to 10ft Mme Alfred Carriere, white with a tiny hint of pink  , large cupped blooms, very healthy, grows to 20ft Teasing Georgia, yellow, excellent disease resistance, grows to 8ft The Pilgrim, pure yellow paler towards outside of flower, produces flowers lower down even when it has reached full height, very healthy, 8ft Veilchenblau, bunches of small flowers that open dark magenta and fade to lilac, no thorns, grows to 15ft (no mention of disease resistance). |
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 12, 2009 6:59:40 GMT
I have a large pergola and failed a few times with roses due to my clay soil. I now have four planters at each end and am progressing I have at one end a Pamela Jackman Clematis that looks really pretty in the Spring and the seed heads are just glorious - think photo of it in Jenny Wrenn's Garden in Garden Gallery I would be interested to see how you go on |
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Post by Amo on Jan 12, 2009 7:55:09 GMT
The trouble with your garden Jenny is not your clay soil, it's your attitude and preparation of clay soil. Roses thrive best in clay, they don't like rocking in the lighter soils too much.
As Jasmine said Steve, Golden Showers is a good one for a bit of shade, slight fragrance and long flowering.
Alberic Barbier is semi evergreen palest of yellow fading to cream. Doesn't mind a bit of rough but it is a rambler so will need untangling, pruning and tying back each year.
I have and adore Climbing Ena Harkness. Old fashioned real rose shape, deep blood red to 15ft. Also the flowers are quite heavy and so droop, a bit of a plus if you are looking up at them!
The list is endless and you will probably get quite a glare fom Rose Friend for not including pink ones!! ;D
And do consider a companion. It's easier to plant both at the same time.
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 12, 2009 8:16:45 GMT
Yes I did know about that Amo as I have an Arthur Bell thriving in clay soil - but the clay soil by the pergola is very very wet and I think they are not happy in that position ie by the pergola Also have a Rambling Rector, partly in shade, that is wonderful each year with a Hagley Hybrid climbing thru it For my front bed I have dumped masses of farmyard manure and it isnt as wet but its hard work - so much clay  |
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Post by Amo on Jan 12, 2009 9:45:22 GMT
It will get better but, yes, it is hard work!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2009 10:11:59 GMT
Mmm thanks guys still not sure do they all flower at the same time of year? a red and a yellow might look good togeather i think. I will take a pic in a few days when the pergolas finished and see what we all think then |
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Post by Amo on Jan 12, 2009 10:16:31 GMT
Have a look on my garden thread. I did a pergola and some rose ropes last year and I mention the combinations of rose and clematis together. Might just give you some ideas.
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Post by Chuckles on Jan 12, 2009 11:55:28 GMT
There are loads to choose from Steve, a factor for me would be perfume too. Saying that I fell in love with Warm Welcome which is only lightly scented, I saw it at friends house last year and have since bought two. It's a modern climber having semi double flowers that are described as orange vermillion and it repeat flowers, it was the colour that got me. This is quite a good site for looking at roses, this link takes you to the Patio Climbers but to the left you can select other types of roses too. Great pictures. www.roselocator.com/rose_locator/roses/patio_climber/I've used Beales in the past and am very happy with them, 20% off some atm too  www.peterbealesroses.com/roses/height/3_to_4m_50cm |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2009 17:39:51 GMT
Amo Thats a beautiful garden you have there i must start a garden thread myself when i get time.
Chuckles thats a lot of roses to pick from i hope i dont just end up just rescuing a couple of roses from B+Q ;D
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Post by JennyWrenn on Jan 13, 2009 6:46:16 GMT
I tried without success to get Paul's Lemon Pillar which was recommended in many gardening mags as a brilliant climber
I saw one or two "Paul's" but never the Lemon Pillar - I even posted a Help Me on this Board
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Post by Chuckles on Jan 17, 2009 21:17:10 GMT
Amo Thats a beautiful garden you have there i must start a garden thread myself when i get time. Chuckles thats a lot of roses to pick from i hope i dont just end up just rescuing a couple of roses from B+Q ;D Amo has done some lovely stuff in her garden and shared it's progress with us, great idea to start a thread yourself Steve, just incase you have forgot where the My Garden/Allotment is   gardenworld.proboards103.com/index.cgi?board=memberphotosI reckon if you are going to do it get some good strong plants Steve from a rose specialist, the Rose Locator link tells you were they are available and Beales do have a special price offers on at the moment too. |
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Now wait for all those suggestions to come in. 
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, large cupped blooms, very healthy, grows to 20ft
