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Post by Ron on Feb 7, 2012 12:18:45 GMT
Tea RosesThe original Tea roses originated in China, thought to have evolved as a cross between R. chinensis and R. gigantea, a large Asian climbing rose with pale-yellow blossoms. Immediately upon their introduction in the early 19th century breeders went to work with them, especially in France, crossing them first with China roses and then with Bourbons and Noisettes. The Tea roses are repeat-flowering roses, some flowering remarkably from spring to winter in warmer climates. They are said by some to be named for their fragrance being reminiscent of Chinese black tea although this may be incorrect, especially as many don’t have this scent. They first arrived in England among cargos of tea and this is where the name may have originated. The colour range includes pastel shades of white, pink and (a novelty at the time) yellow to apricot. The individual flowers of many cultivars are semi-pendent and nodding, due to weak flower stalks. In a ‘typical’ Tea, pointed buds produce high-centred blooms which unfurl in a spiral fashion, and the petals tend to roll back at the edges, producing a petal with a pointed tip; the Teas are thus the originators of today's "classic" florists' rose form. They were crossed with hybrid perpetuals to produce the modern and popular hybrid tea roses. Like the Chinas, the Teas are not hardy in colder climates. In the UK, many can be grown in a sheltered position particularly if protected during winter. The following is a selection of Tea roses that I particularly like. There are, of course, many more to choose from. The photographs are reproduced with the kind permission of Becky and John Hook of La Roserie du Desert in France. They have a wide selection of Tea roses (and others) for sale at www.frenchtearose.com/       
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 7, 2012 18:34:48 GMT
They really do look lovely Rony - do you have some of them or are you still at the "liking" stage??
RF
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Post by Ron on Feb 7, 2012 18:47:27 GMT
Liking, Rosefriend. I've only just started looking at Teas roses. Must get some though, as msoon as I can afford it.  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 7, 2012 19:00:39 GMT
Is there a possibility of getting some of them in the UK - isn't 15 Euro and a P & P of 16.95 Euro for 1-3 roses pretty high...sorry, rose prices in the UK are not really up my alley these days....
RF
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Post by Ron on Feb 7, 2012 21:48:29 GMT
Peter Beale's roses have a limited selection, just 35 Tea roses. www.classicroses.co.uk/Even they are not cheap though (£13.95 was one I found), but postage might work out cheaper (1 to 5 is £6.95). If you can afford to buy more than 3 from Roserie, the postage works out much cheaper. At 15 euros (£12.45 currently) they are about the average. They're only available from a limited number of nurseries which makes them a bit dearer than commoner roses. With postage, price per rose from Roserie... 4 roses £16.16 each 5 £15.42 6 £14.93 7 £14.57 at current exchange rates. In general, you won't save much with a British outlet and will probably have much less choice. Up to you really, how much you are willing to pay for an uncommon rose. |
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Post by JennyWrenn on Feb 8, 2012 6:16:28 GMT
Some of these are beautiful I especially like the Hugo Roller and the Adolf Dohair
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 8, 2012 7:37:46 GMT
I was actually thinking more of you being able to buy in the UK rather than in France as I thought it would be cheaper. Obviously it isn't really...and of course it is the choice.
I buy all my roses here, bare rooted in the Spring, as we never know what kind of winter we are going to get...thankfully I didn't buy any last autumn as with minus 20 this last week, they would not have been very happy methinks.
Say you had to buy 3 - which three would you choose....??
RF
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Post by Ron on Feb 8, 2012 8:57:10 GMT
Wow, Rosefriend, that is a tough one. It is very difficult to reduce it to three, and I think every time I look I change my mind! Certainly my top choices would include Beaute Inconstante (the mix of intense colour), Souvenir de Gilbery Nabonnand (very unusual colour combination and pleasing pom pom form), and Hugo Roller (exceptional blend of colours). But I would then hate to miss out on White Maman Cochet, General Gallieni, Homere... I could go on. (and on and on...!)
Souvenir de Gilbery Nabonnand looks like it's been painted. If it was just one, I'd probably buy this one.
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 8, 2012 11:59:57 GMT
Good choice - just look at the different shades and tones... www.roses-nabonnand.com/rosier-souvenir-de-gilbert-nabonnand.htmlThe wonderful thing about old tea roses is the fantastic transformations they go through...small orderly buds (babies), opening to a lovely shaped rose (children), then the unruly (teenager) stage, the deepening of colour that shows maturity and then often the lessening of colour than brings on the end of the bloom... I love the blousy, unruly stage best I think... RF |
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Post by Ron on Feb 8, 2012 20:21:05 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 9, 2012 13:05:32 GMT
Thanks for that Rony - it makes very interesting reading!!
RF
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Post by Ron on Feb 10, 2012 11:15:29 GMT
He bred a surprising number of roses in his life, along with a lot of other plants.
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Post by Dutchy on Feb 11, 2012 16:54:01 GMT
Lovely thanks Rony Unruly does it for me too RF And thanks for all the sites as I know I should not buy any for my garden but...........  |
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Post by Ron on Feb 12, 2012 13:37:07 GMT
I think Tea roses are a risk in the UK because of the climate, but I'm probably going to get up to three anyway and try to give them what protection I can.
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 13, 2012 8:12:06 GMT
I honestly wouldn't risk it here at all....no chance that they can do over minus 20!!
RF
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Post by Ron on Feb 15, 2012 18:41:23 GMT
How many of you would like one or more Tea roses? It's just a thought, but remember Rosefriend and Jasmines' efforts to bring us the Angelface rose? I would be happy to place a combined order and send them on. It would save on postage and it only costs about £2 to send them from the UK. 15 Euros though may be too expensive for some, I suppose. It works out about £12.50 in GBP. Let me know anyway if you're interested, and if we get enough responses, I'll organise it.
If 12 roses were ordered, the carriage would work out at £1.50 plus £2 to send them on = £3.50. That's £16 a rose though, which may be still too expensive?
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Post by Ron on Feb 16, 2012 12:01:52 GMT
Just one other point to consider. I couldn't afford to pay the money up front, so it would have to be sent prior to ordering. Also each additional rose to the same address would be £2 less as there would be only one UK postage charge.
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Post by Ron on Feb 20, 2012 9:11:57 GMT
Can't see any interest, so I'll forget this one. Not surprised, really, considering the cost. I have to admit you need a passion for roses to splash out a significant amount of money for just one or two. You won't be surprised that I have been down that road! I've ordered from Italy, Germany and the Netherlands in the past paying quite high carriage costs.
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