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Post by Chuckles on Mar 23, 2007 23:33:22 GMT
Since Plocket started her Clematis Thread I though it would be interesting to know what other members had. Had a wonder round the garden this afternoon  have 23 that I know the names of and 15 that I don't. I know I said I need some help with ID's Plocket but didn't realise I had so many. Terniflora x 2 Nelly Moser x 3 Royalty x 2 Wisley Cream Rouge Cardinal Lagoon Niobe Pixie Petit Faucon Sunset Rhapsody Barbara Harington Mrs N Thompson Freckles - New Bell of Woking - New Huldin - New Miss Bateman - New The President - New Ville De Lyon - New ? x 5 From The Wilts Cottage ? x 11 in pots ? x 1 Evergreen, same flower as Wisley cream with pink freckles ? x 1 Purple ? x 1 From Sarah |
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Post by owainglyndwr on Mar 23, 2007 23:57:05 GMT
That's impressive. I'll be happy with; succesfully growing one.  |
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 24, 2007 0:03:25 GMT
It was a huge shock ;D wouldn't have bought those 6 new ones if I'd realised how many I all ready had, but then again maybe I would have ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2007 8:43:13 GMT
After catching Plocketitus last year I have Miss Bateman Duchess of Edinburgh Jaquline Du Pre Willy Josephine Sunset Rouge Cardinal Ernest Markham Niobe Negritjanka Piilu Warszawaska Nike Wisley Cream Sara ;D |
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Post by Plocket on Mar 24, 2007 18:52:31 GMT
Ooooh your lists are so lovely and when I read them I see names of clematis that I still want - oh for a bigger garden!!!
Here's my list:
Tangutica
Patens “James Mason”
“Fair Rosamund”
H.F. Young
Korena “Blue Eclipse”
Macropetala “Wesselton”
Songarica
Blue Pirouette
Viticella “Abundance”
Alpina “Frances Rivis”
“Blue Angel”
Viticella “Purpurea Plena Elegans”
Viticella “Etoile Violette”
Voluceau
Cartmanii Joe
Brunette
Texensis “Princess Diana”
“Belle of Woking”
Cirrhosa Wisley Cream
Cirrhosa Freckles
“Franziska Maria”
Pink Champagne (Kakio)
Montana “Primrose Star”
Viorna “Buckland Beauty”
“Bells of Emei Shan”
Marmoraria AGM
“Mrs Colmondeley”
“Beauty of Worcester”
Heracleifolia Dwarf Blue
Integrifolia “Alba”
Heracleifolia Purple Princess
Fusca
Guernsey Cream x 2
“Vyvyan Pennell”
“Wada’s Primrose”
Alpina Purity
Koreana Pointy
Crystal Fountain “Blue Fairy”
Integrifolia Hanajima
Integrifolia Lord Herschell
“Silver Moon” x 2
“Sunset” x 2
Alpina “Constance”
Alpina “White Swan”
Petit Faucon
Viticella “Madame Julia Correvon”
Hybrida “Sunstar”
Florida Siebolidii
Integrifolia Blue
Guernsey Cream
Montana “Elizabeth”
Montana “Marjorie”
“Praecox”
Ernest Markham
Quite a few of mine are planted together to save space and if anyone wants to know what pairings I have, I'd be happy to let them know!!! ;D
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Post by Plocket on Mar 24, 2007 18:54:37 GMT
? x 5 From The Wilts Cottage ? x 11 in pots ? x 1 Evergreen, same flower as Wisley cream with pink freckles ? x 1 Purple ? x 1 From Sarah Are you sure the pink freckles one isn't Freckles? If not it is most likely to be Cirrhosa "Balearica" - they are similar but the latter has less freckles. I'll need more clues if I'm to help with the others though! ;D |
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 24, 2007 21:04:53 GMT
Oh no P I didn't expect you to ID them from my list  I will let them flower then take some pics and post them on the Clems Q & A thread. I probably have pictures of some of them but to be honest can't remember which is which. Some of the ? ones are cuttings I've grown from Clems that I have, and also cuttings and self rooted ones from other places. You know places like friends houses where bits break off and happen to fall into a little poly bag with some damp kitchen roll in it And some are what I've dug up from my gdn when I moved things around last back end. ? x 5 From The Wilts Cottage - These are bits that had self rooted at friends cottage in Wiltshire. ? x 11 in pots - these are a mix of cuttings and ones from my gdn ? x 1 Evergreen, same flower colour as Wisley cream but with pink freckles on the inside of the flower ? x 1 Purple - dug up from my gdn ? x 1 From Sarah - One my old boss gave me that had self rooted from hers, small purple flowers I think she said, not flower in last 2 years though  It's nice to see what other members have though isn't it. We'll all end up with Wish Lists now for Roses, Hostas, Dahlias and now Clems too ;D |
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 25, 2007 21:30:08 GMT
Have looked at the evergreen Clem properly today and checked it out and it is Balearica, Thanks P. I have done a spreadsheet tonight with all my known and unknown Clems listed with all the detail on them like pruning, aspect, height etc etc
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2007 6:49:42 GMT
Need to add
Viticella “Madame Julia Correvon”
Sara ;D
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Post by Plocket on Mar 26, 2007 8:24:44 GMT
Did you buy it this weekend Sara or forgot you had it??? ;D
I've got a spreadsheet with mine on too Chuckles - it's great to update - I'm such a clem-geek!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2007 8:32:18 GMT
Yep bought it yesterday via Morrison's. What group would you say Warszawaska Nike is? If grp 2 will plant with pillu or if Grp 3 with Julia Hull site say's 3 but others sites say 2 so hence dilemma Sara |
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Post by Plocket on Mar 26, 2007 9:46:22 GMT
Hehehe! You'll love it!!! ;D
Warszawska Nike is group 3 in my encyclopedia - but according to other books it can just be light pruned. Given that Piilu is a delicate little duckling (sorry - couldn't resist!) you might be better putting Warsaw Nike in with Madame Julia - I think they are more suited in size.
I hope this helps a bit! Px
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2007 11:51:22 GMT
Hi Plocket,
Took your advice and have planted Warszawska Nike with Viticella “Madame Julia Correvon” to scramble up the obelisk (metal thingy)
They are both quite young plants should I expect much this season?
Sara ;D
ps forgot "Avalanche" on my list
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Post by Plocket on Mar 26, 2007 12:16:27 GMT
As they are both Group 3s I think they should do fairly well Sara - fingers crossed. Your list is getting longer!!!!! ;D
Px
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Post by MamIDdau on Mar 30, 2007 15:54:43 GMT
Is there an evergreen clematis that stays more like a bush rather than a climber? If so, I'd like one LOL
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Post by Plocket on Mar 30, 2007 17:39:50 GMT
If it's a sunny sheltered spot you could grow a few Pixies, Cartmanii Joe's or Avalanches together (that sort of clematis) but you'd probably need some sort of structure inside to form the shape!
(Love the photo/avatar btw Aprilaydee - is that Shadda settling into his new home?)
I've a confession to make - I've got two more clems to go on my list: Addisonii and Angustifolia. OH bought them for me for Easter instead of an egg ;D
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Post by MamIDdau on Mar 30, 2007 18:09:36 GMT
no that was Shads at my mum's. Took a pic of him and Sally cuddling up together on the couch this evening though.
So there aren't any clematisisisisis that just form a bush then?! dammit. We've got a few at work but they're all climber types that will grow mahoosive in time. So can I just get some of those small obelisk things or some short canes and form a wigwam type thing and get a small clematis to stay in a pot?
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Post by Plocket on Mar 30, 2007 18:21:00 GMT
I don't know of any evergreens that are bush-like Aprilaydee - that doesn't mean there aren't any!!!
Personally I'd go with the container/obelisk thing because you can then organise the plant to get the shape you want (you don't have to buy an obelisk though - get some sturdy garden wire and/or chicken wire and you could make whatever shape you want!) and the smaller evergreens will be quite happy in a pot. Evergreens want sun though, and some need shelter in winter.
If you go for the ones I mentioned in my earlier post they stay quite small.
Can't wait to see Shadda - how are you settling into your new home without the beastly flat-mate?
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Post by MamIDdau on Mar 30, 2007 18:26:32 GMT
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Post by Plocket on Mar 30, 2007 18:29:51 GMT
They are both gorgeous Aprilaydee (you know me!!! ) but not evergreen!!!!! If you need somewhere to have a good peruse, try this place: www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemlistsearch.cfm - put in all your requirements and see what it throws up. Some might be more difficult to find than others, but if your heart is set on something special try www.sheilachapman.com as she's a clematis specialist. Delivery isn't cheap but her plants are excellent! |
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Post by MamIDdau on Mar 30, 2007 18:36:01 GMT
well the cezanne one met my fragrant and size requirements I typed in so think that's going onto my want list...
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 30, 2007 19:21:59 GMT
Since Plocket started her Clematis Thread I though it would be interesting to know what other members had. Had a wonder round the garden this afternoon have 23 that I know the names of and 15 that I don't. I know I said I need some help with ID's Plocket but didn't realise I had so many. Terniflora x 2 Nelly Moser x 3 Royalty x 2 Wisley Cream Rouge Cardinal Lagoon Niobe Pixie Petit Faucon Sunset Rhapsody Barbara Harington Mrs N Thompson Freckles - New Bell of Woking - New Huldin - New Miss Bateman - New The President - New Ville De Lyon - New Cirrhosa "Balearica" ? x 5 From The Wilts Cottage ? x 11 in pots ? x 1 Purple ? x 1 From Sarah ? x 1 Need to add another unknown to the list of Clems that I have. Found one today amongst the Jasmine and Honeysuckle when I was trimming up. It looks a poor specimin but it has a shoot on it |
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Post by Plocket on Mar 31, 2007 12:41:39 GMT
I'm trying to work out where to put my two new ones - they are both tiddlers and will probably go in pots, but I've already go so many containers..... I'll work something out ;D
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Post by MamIDdau on Mar 31, 2007 13:22:19 GMT
I'm sure you'll find somewhere P.... |
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Post by Plocket on Mar 31, 2007 18:18:33 GMT
Probably!!! It's just a case of working out whether I can plant them with something I already have, whether to grow them together (which I'm not sure about!) in a pot, individually in pots, or whether I can fit one into the Margi Bed - decisions, decisions!!! |
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Post by MamIDdau on Mar 31, 2007 20:05:16 GMT
I have the same problem with my lavenders.... do I put the small ones in a pot together, do I put them in a trough, do I put them all in a big pot... I sat there for a good half hour earlier just staring at them wondering.
Think I'll put them into separate pots though. Just need the money to buy them now.
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Post by Plocket on Apr 1, 2007 18:51:11 GMT
I'd have them in different pots - you'll be able to see them better ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2007 18:31:39 GMT
I haven't got many clems but I did buy one today. It's a Clematis x jouiniana Praecox. I've also got a montana primrose star, a montana rubens and a cirrhosa freckles (that I still haven't planted  ) FA x |
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Post by MamIDdau on Apr 5, 2007 18:56:18 GMT
I went to a local nursery today (only taken me a year to get around to going). They had loooooooooooooooooooooads of clematisisisis <gollum stylie> and said they had more coming out of the greenhouses soon. The guy I was talking to didn't know that much about them though.
They had a lot of plants but I have to say it wasn't much different to what we have at work and ours are cheaper plus my discount. If I needed something specialised or fothergills/unwin seeds I could go there but otherwise not that impressed.
Might try and get to Tal Y Coed nurseries soon too. Ooooh and I think I might be going to Bodnant Gardens soon too <claps>
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Post by grannyjanny on Apr 5, 2007 20:27:13 GMT
Hi FA. I have the clematis JP & I am about to dig it up & give it away. It has a lovely flower but is so rampant. After a few years it just went mad. It spread over the lawn & everywhere. I planted it under a large Aucuba & still had problems.
Hope I haven't spoilt your fun.
Janet.
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I will let them flower then take some pics and post them on the Clems Q & A thread. 
