|
|
Post by Dutchy on Mar 31, 2015 8:25:35 GMT
Yes they do look good. And with all the vaseline in the joints they are bound to last long.
Your SP and Clem will try to smother them though wink .
|
|
|
|
Post by Chuckles on Apr 1, 2015 8:55:24 GMT
Yes they do look good. And with all the vaseline in the joints they are bound to last long. Your SP and Clem will try to smother them though wink . Hopefully they'll smother them unless I've made them to slippery with all the vaseline  |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 24, 2016 15:19:22 GMT
Just looking through this old thread and it made me think. Have any of you used those wooden hoops for embroidery? I was wondering how strong they might be as I wonder if I could construct an obelisk using them. ❔
|
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 24, 2016 15:33:50 GMT
Just looking through this old thread and it made me think. Have any of you used those wooden hoops for embroidery? I was wondering how strong they might be as I wonder if I could construct an obelisk using them. ❔ Are they big enough Ron, - I know they come in different sizes but even so...also what about weatherproof - don't think they were meant to be outside in all weathers...also how would you screw/glue them together etc? I sense a plan coming on - hahahahahaha!! |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 24, 2016 15:47:10 GMT
Just looking through this old thread and it made me think. Have any of you used those wooden hoops for embroidery? I was wondering how strong they might be as I wonder if I could construct an obelisk using them. ❔ Are they big enough Ron , - I know they come in different sizes but even so...also what about weatherproof - don't think they were meant to be outside in all weathers...also how would you screw/glue them together etc? I sense a plan coming on - hahahahahaha!! A plan? What a good idea!  I can easily weatherproof them, Rosefriend, and I could probably reinforce them if necessary. They are 6", 9" and 12" and I'd use 8 ft battens so they could be wider at the top.  |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 24, 2016 16:47:21 GMT
Hahahaha - you've been thinking about this for a while, haven't you....good idea Ron, !! I have something , in plastic, that is very similar, very wobbly though!! |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 24, 2016 18:31:25 GMT
Hahahaha - you've been thinking about this for a while, haven't you....good idea Ron , !! I have something , in plastic, that is very similar, very wobbly though!! I have, Rosefriend, yes, but the big stumbling block has always been the round wooden bits. Finding the embroidery rings was the clincher. I'll be using 38mm x 19mm laths for the sides so hoping it won't wobble.  |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 24, 2016 18:38:06 GMT
Hahahaha - you've been thinking about this for a while, haven't you....good idea Ron , !! I have something , in plastic, that is very similar, very wobbly though!! I have, Rosefriend, yes, but the big stumbling block has always been the round wooden bits. Finding the embroidery rings was the clincher. I'll be using 38mm x 19mm laths for the sides so hoping it won't wobble. Love the idea Ron, - I think that is part of a good group - throwing ideas around - even if the original idea doesn't fit in your own scheme, it sparks off other ideas!! Don't forget the pics !! |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 24, 2016 19:01:52 GMT
Rosefriend , J Parkers are offering 4 x honeysuckles for £13.98 so I think what to grow on them is solved. I've ordered enough to make 3 obelisks but I'll find somewhere for the 4th one, I'm sure. They are Gold Flame (red/orange), Serotina (red/cream), Tellmanniana (orange/yellow) and Belgica (pink/yellow). I'll have to keep them pruned to fit though. They throw in 10 begonia plants free with the order as well.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 24, 2016 19:25:07 GMT
Rosefriend , J Parkers are offering 4 x honeysuckles for £13.98 so I think what to grow on them is solved. I've ordered enough to make 3 obelisks but I'll find somewhere for the 4th one, I'm sure. They are Gold Flame (red/orange), Serotina (red/cream), Tellmanniana (orange/yellow) and Belgica (pink/yellow). I'll have to keep them pruned to fit though. They throw in 10 begonia plants free with the order as well. Hahahahahah - sort of what came first - the hen or the egg?? What came first, - the offer for the honeysuckles or the idea how to use embroidery rings for growing?? |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 24, 2016 22:53:40 GMT
What came first, - the offer for the honeysuckles or the idea how to use embroidery rings for growing?? The rings, then I started thinking about what to grow on them. The obelisk has been in my mind for a long time, originally because I thought a support for roses should be bigger at the top whilst many are the other way round. I didn't think these would be strong enough for roses though, they aren't true climbers, their weight needs supporting. Honeysuckle are strong vines, they can pretty much take their own weight, they just need tying in to train them and keep them in place. That's the theory anyway  |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 25, 2016 5:33:27 GMT
What came first, - the offer for the honeysuckles or the idea how to use embroidery rings for growing?? The rings, then I started thinking about what to grow on them. The obelisk has been in my mind for a long time, originally because I thought a support for roses should be bigger at the top whilst many are the other way round. I didn't think these would be strong enough for roses though, they aren't true climbers, their weight needs supporting. Honeysuckle are strong vines, they can pretty much take their own weight, they just need tying in to train them and keep them in place. That's the theory anyway The theory is good one for me - the only thing that I can see is that Honeysuckle gets sooo woody after a while - would it break the first ring perhaps... |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 25, 2016 9:07:13 GMT
Rosefriend, you may be right. Will just go with it though I think, time will tell.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 25, 2016 9:44:47 GMT
Rosefriend, you may be right. Will just go with it though I think, time will tell. Don't forget the pics Ron,!! |
|
|
|
Post by Chuckles on Mar 26, 2016 21:45:42 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 27, 2016 2:47:42 GMT
Thanks, Chuckles, looks interesting although I've already ordered some. If they're too flimsy, may try these. |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 30, 2016 9:08:00 GMT
The rings, then I started thinking about what to grow on them. The obelisk has been in my mind for a long time, originally because I thought a support for roses should be bigger at the top whilst many are the other way round. I didn't think these would be strong enough for roses though, they aren't true climbers, their weight needs supporting. Honeysuckle are strong vines, they can pretty much take their own weight, they just need tying in to train them and keep them in place. That's the theory anyway The theory is good one for me - the only thing that I can see is that Honeysuckle gets sooo woody after a while - would it break the first ring perhaps... The rings have arrived and they are quite substantial, I think they should be okay. The 6" one may be too small though as you suggested, will think on that one as I ordered 14" when you first posted this, just in case (still to come). Will post pictures when construction starts. |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 30, 2016 14:40:07 GMT
The theory is good one for me - the only thing that I can see is that Honeysuckle gets sooo woody after a while - would it break the first ring perhaps... The rings have arrived and they are quite substantial, I think they should be okay. The 6" one may be too small though as you suggested, will think on that one as I ordered 14" when you first posted this, just in case (still to come). Will post pictures when construction starts. Looking forward to seeing how it all pans out Ron - Honeysuckle plants can be real thugs in older years...pretty as they are.. |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 30, 2016 14:44:27 GMT
Looking forward to seeing how it all pans out Ron - Honeysuckle plants can be real thugs in older years...pretty as they are.. From what I've read, they don't object to being cut right down at the end of the season, they will happily shoot back up again. I wouldn't (hopefully) have that problem then - or maybe every two or three years. |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 30, 2016 14:47:50 GMT
Looking forward to seeing how it all pans out Ron - Honeysuckle plants can be real thugs in older years...pretty as they are.. From what I've read, they don't object to being cut right down at the end of the season, they will happily shoot back up again. I wouldn't (hopefully) have that problem then - or maybe every two or three years. That is true Ron - I also remember Tig saying something about a Honeysuckle that wasn't a thug and very smelly and beautiful - can't remember what it was now... |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 30, 2016 14:51:39 GMT
Rosefriend, with the one I already have, there will be: 'dropmore scarlet', 'serotina', 'belgica', 'tellmanniana' and 'gold flame'.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Mar 30, 2016 15:00:14 GMT
Rosefriend, with the one I already have, there will be: 'dropmore scarlet', 'serotina', 'belgica', 'tellmanniana' and 'gold flame'. Good grief Ron, !! |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 31, 2016 9:56:04 GMT
Rosefriend , with the one I already have, there will be: 'dropmore scarlet', 'serotina', 'belgica', 'tellmanniana' and 'gold flame'. Good grief Ron , !! Would be quite a takeover I should think if I just let them grow, especially considering the relatively small space! Amazon (the retailers) annoy me. I'm likely to have to wait another week for the 14" rings I ordered as they're coming from America. Unless you select the link to find the company details and then search through the info given, there's nothing to say they're based in the USA. It should be displayed on the order page. |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Mar 31, 2016 19:04:23 GMT
Doing a bit each day, all the wood sanded and 5 pieces stained 'mid oak'. 4 to do and the rings. May have to wait up to a week for the 14" rings so photos then when I start constructing.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Apr 1, 2016 11:04:49 GMT
The last set of rings arrived today which was a pleasant surprise ... at least until I opened the package. One of them was damaged and the quality is well less than those I previously bought. I'm beginning to wonder whether buying through Amazon is worth the hassle.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Apr 5, 2016 14:56:15 GMT
Everything is stained/preserved ready for construction now. Trouble is, they've forecast wet weather for more than a week, so I may feel somewhat frustrated ...  |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Apr 5, 2016 15:10:01 GMT
Everything is stained/preserved ready for construction now. Trouble is, they've forecast wet weather for more than a week, so I may feel somewhat frustrated ... Did you send the damaged one back@ronymaxwell,?? Looking forward to seeing what you do - the weather is against me as well - we may be getting a touch of frost as well at the weekend - not happy on that one !! |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Apr 6, 2016 6:59:49 GMT
Everything is stained/preserved ready for construction now. Trouble is, they've forecast wet weather for more than a week, so I may feel somewhat frustrated ... Did you send the damaged one back@ronymaxwell,?? Looking forward to seeing what you do - the weather is against me as well - we may be getting a touch of frost as well at the weekend - not happy on that one !! They gave me a refund for the damaged ring, Rosefriend, though it wasn't what I wanted. I asked for a replacement but they would not send one. Seemingly the rules Amazon work by allow them to do that. They have now withdrawn them from sale so there must be a problem with them. I can still use it though, I don't think it will be noticeable when the plant is growing. The rain is a nuisance but it's better than frost, I suppose. We're sure to get a bit more yet but hopefully nothing too severe. |
|
|
|
Post by Ron on Apr 7, 2016 16:36:48 GMT
As the sides of the obelisk are going to be curved and that will put tension on the rings, I don't think they're strong enough. I have an old mini greenhouse that got smashed up in the stormy weather so I can use the metal tubes. Running wires through them will take care of both compression and tension. That does of course mean a plan ...  |
|
|
|
Post by Rosefriend on Apr 7, 2016 16:58:44 GMT
Aaaahhhhhh a plan Ron, - I am with you now - hahahahaha!!!! Good idea actually - they will be strengthened a lot. What size pots are these going into?? |
|
