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Post by Rosefriend on Nov 30, 2012 16:14:13 GMT
It's a healthy rose - no doubt about it..
RF
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Post by Tig on Nov 30, 2012 18:37:58 GMT
Mine still has two buds on it, although I doubt they will open now. It hasn't dropped a single leaf yet! Nearly all the others in the garden are bare stems now.
x Tig
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Post by Auricula on Nov 30, 2012 19:20:02 GMT
Mine is a bit waterlogged and the leaves have gone yellowish  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Nov 30, 2012 19:21:21 GMT
Actually that doesn't surprise me but I still think it will be OK... just hope you and the garden are dry soon..
RF
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Post by Auricula on Nov 30, 2012 19:23:35 GMT
Thank you  |
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Post by Tig on Dec 26, 2012 20:11:08 GMT
Despite several very cold spells and having been frozen quite a few times my Angel Face is still in full leaf, it even has some buds on it! Getting a bit worried that it isn't going to get a 'rest' at all before it wants to start putting out new shoots. Any advice on how best to treat it?
x Tig
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 27, 2012 7:30:45 GMT
Tig one of my 2 is the same but I'd been thinking I'll cut it back in another week or two. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Dec 27, 2012 12:12:56 GMT
Despite several very cold spells and having been frozen quite a few times my Angel Face is still in full leaf, it even has some buds on it! Getting a bit worried that it isn't going to get a 'rest' at all before it wants to start putting out new shoots. Any advice on how best to treat it? x Tig Tig one of my 2 is the same but I'd been thinking I'll cut it back in another week or two. Roses will go on growing longer and longer until they are stopped - pruning roses really needs sharp secateurs and a hard heart as they say in Germany. You have to be cruel to be kind and learn to chop even lush growth off... I would have capped AF (and other roses) at the latest at the end of November, flowering or not.... If you like to leave them flowering then you have to be ever harder in the Spring...roses in the UK should be pruned mid to end Feb....the earlier date the more southerly and the later date the more northerly. Here in Germany we say that the roses should be unmounded when the Cherry flowers and cut at the same time that the Forsythia flowers...more mid March to end of March for us.. LG and Tig - caps your AF's and stop their growth and then wait until February for a proper prune - it is far too early to do a proper cut now...pruning encourages new growth and that is the last thing that you want in Dec/Jan... If this weather carries on then a lot of roses will have a lot of lush growth, but still some of it has to come off in Spring...if you want lovely compact roses - otherwise you will just get leggy roses with hardly any blooms... Next year I would cap them at the end of November to stop them growing and halve very tall roses if there is a chance that the wind will ruin them and then wait until February. Climbers and Old Roses are different .. Just to show you how hard it is - it took me 5 years to be able to cut a wonderfully lush rose back - my roses are far far better for it but it isn't easy... RF EDIT: Do remember to cut out rotten or weak stems when pruning as well... |
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 27, 2012 13:14:20 GMT
Thanks so much for all that information Rf. I don't know anything about Roses. I'll leave pruning them until February.
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Post by Rosefriend on Dec 27, 2012 13:28:32 GMT
If you can get a really clear pic of AF I will show you where to prune it back if you are worried LG..
AF is one rose that can really take hard pruning..
RF
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Post by Tig on Dec 27, 2012 14:06:18 GMT
Thanks for helping us novices RF  Mine hasn't dropped a leaf yet, it is the healthiest looking rose in the garden, all the others are bare stems and I did prune them mid-November to stop them rocking. AF is still quite short and bushy - now about 2' tall and the same wide. I will remove any buds and wait until February, when perhaps it will have decided to shed a bit of foliage  x Tig |
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Post by Rosefriend on Dec 27, 2012 14:32:32 GMT
The old leaves will go anyway - sometimes they stay so healthy that the bud of the new leaves has to push them off!! I do help gently in Spring if the new growth is having a hard time of it...
The thing is that AF is a 70cm rose (if I remember rightly) but a rose only keeps the size that it should be by good pruning....I let some roses grow bigger than they should if I can cover up the bare stems at the bottom and if they still flower as well. No point in having a rose that doesn't flower much...
Do remember to fertilizer at the same time at that you prune in Feb...then again at the time of the first blooms but no later than July...
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 27, 2012 16:52:24 GMT
I'll have to buy some proper Rose fertilizer.
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Post by Rosefriend on Dec 27, 2012 17:20:09 GMT
It is worth it LG - it does have just the right minerals etc that roses need...
I have to admit to using Aldi Rose Fertilizer for over 25 years now...once tried really expensive stuff and I couldn't see any difference tbh...was also told that Lidl Rose fertilizer is the same as Aldi's !!
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 27, 2012 18:34:34 GMT
Thanks Rf.
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Post by Jilly on Dec 28, 2012 10:21:41 GMT
When you get your rose fertilizer LG, remember that you can use it on other shrubs too, Clems especially seem to thrive on it, they always get a dose at the same time as the roses.
My Angelface is still in a pot (no choice really) but hopefully she'll get a bigger one in February if I can give things a bit of a shift around.
Jillyx
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 28, 2012 10:28:05 GMT
Jilly thanks for that I did'nt know. I'll put some on my Clems for sure, hopefully they're still alive after loosing their climbing oblisk.
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 30, 2012 6:04:47 GMT
I bought some BFB yesterday for general gardening needs but could'nt see any Rose Feed. They were selling Bonemeal with a pic of Roses on the box and the writing on the back said it's suitable for Roses Shrubs Fruit Trees and Bushes. Would that do or should I get something that says Rose Feed on the box? |
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Post by Rosefriend on Dec 30, 2012 7:41:18 GMT
I do know there is a Bonemeal Fertilizer for Roses - slow working which is good and I also use my Rose Fertilizer for Clems and Shrubs...works well...
I don't see why you can't use that LG...the only other thing would be to wait and check the "ingredients" of a rose fertilizer against the Bonemeal...it is the mineral content that is important...if the Bonemeal is about the same then go for that...
That's what I did with the Aldi rose fertilizer years ago - a neighbour had some and I wrote down all the main minerals and their percentages and went and found a good Rose fertilizer and checked and there was hardly any difference - well, apart from the price which was 4 times as much, so I bought the Aldi stuff and still do...
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 30, 2012 8:04:22 GMT
Thanks Rf, it sounds like it would be fine, the one I saw was only £1 for a 1kg box in the pound shop and it did say it was slow release. It's time enough to be buying it anyhow. I'll write down the ingredients and check it against a rose fertiliser when I see one.
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Post by Rosefriend on Dec 30, 2012 8:09:06 GMT
Internet could possibly help you rather than trudging around LG..
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Dec 30, 2012 8:16:00 GMT
True Rf although I'd intended waiting until I go to B&Q next as they're sure to have it and I won't need it for a few weeks yet. |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 16, 2013 14:28:12 GMT
I got Rose Feed the other day but you know, today when I was at the bottom of the garden, I noticed a lot of new growth on both my Angelface. I'd cut one of them back a bit because I moved it a few months ago and it tolerated the move very well. Some of the stems I cut off, I stuck into the ground as it was then bare and I did'nt want the cats to come into it. It worked and they've left them alone but one of them has new shoots on it. I won't move it, just leave it and see if it survives. My question is, as we seem to have more temperate climate here should I cut my Roses back now instead of waiting a few weeks until it's february. I was reading the other night and it said to cut them back before they start into life again. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 16, 2013 14:35:24 GMT
I honestly wouldn't cut roses back in January, it is just too early. It actually doesn't matter if you cut them back later - it is just harder for you to cut back green growth...you could still be in for some hard weather....leave until at least the end of the month LG - you never know what we might be in for.
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 16, 2013 15:25:08 GMT
OK Rf thanks, I'll stop being so impatient and leave them be. I'll have to be pretty ruthless when the time comes 'tho.
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Post by Rosefriend on Jan 16, 2013 16:37:10 GMT
Yes, it isn't easy cutting back lush growth but roses will thank you for it and AF is one rose that can stand being pruned hard....
Leave 3 - 5 eyes if you can bear to cut back as much...
RF
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Post by Ladygardener on Jan 16, 2013 18:16:36 GMT
I'll do that Rf, I want them to look their best.
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Post by Tig on Feb 25, 2013 15:08:03 GMT
Rosefriend I hope this photo is good enough to get some pointers on where to prune her? The few leaves at the bottom front are on a very straggly thin shoot, which I think I should remove 
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Post by Rosefriend on Feb 25, 2013 15:25:30 GMT
I'll have a play when I get a few minutes Tig...yes I would take that straggly shoot off at the bottom. RF |
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Post by Tig on Feb 25, 2013 15:52:59 GMT
No hurry RF - it is a few days since I took the photo (and then forgot to post it). I noticed today that there are more red shoots and those that were already growing have lengthened by about an inch and a half!
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Mine hasn't dropped a leaf yet, it is the healthiest looking rose in the garden, all the others are bare stems and I did prune them mid-November to stop them rocking. AF is still quite short and bushy - now about 2' tall and the same wide. I will remove any buds and wait until February, when perhaps it will have decided to shed a bit of foliage 
