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Post by Dutchy on Jul 23, 2007 19:43:09 GMT
Nah. just cause some one sends you a cutting does not mean he is off the hook.
Right now my Buddleia is taking a crash course in swimming. Looks like it is heading your way too RF
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Post by Dutchy on Jul 23, 2007 19:43:45 GMT
Ah emmm the weather not the Buddleia
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Post by Rosefriend on Jul 23, 2007 19:51:44 GMT
OOh thanks Dutchy - just what I need - and the Buddleia's....... well at least OM isn't of the hook yet............
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Post by oldmoleskins on Jul 23, 2007 19:57:32 GMT
Perhaps I don't want to be off the hook...
But, back in the real world, cuttings are at this moment gathering their strength in Good Norfolk Soil for the neglect they're destined to receive Abroad...
OM
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Post by Dutchy on Jul 23, 2007 20:00:06 GMT
NOT but I can't stop it.
Oh and why should we let OM get away with cruelty to middle aged women from across the ditch?
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Post by Dutchy on Jul 23, 2007 20:03:29 GMT
Ah there he is. ( virtual spanking taking place now)
What sort of soil do you have?
RF is almost pure sand so maybe the shock of the transplant will make them grow.
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Post by oldmoleskins on Jul 23, 2007 20:12:53 GMT
Ah there he is. ( virtual spanking taking place now) What sort of soil do you have? RF is almost pure sand so maybe the shock of the transplant will make them grow. the screens, Matron... as it happens, a very fine, but rather sandy loam - so, who knows, maybe this'll be the one to 'go'. PM me and I'll send you one too. OM. |
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Post by Dutchy on Jul 23, 2007 20:42:05 GMT
(Virtual spanking now followed by genteel rubbing and carefully placing plasters.)
Thank you OM but I am on full heavy clay that once upon a time was the sea bed. In a normal summer I need a pick axe to get into my soil and right now one merely gets stuck.
I can only keep Buddleia in pots and think I will pass.
I will enjoy all the nice pictures on here and the ones growing in the municipal beds that have tons of sand added.
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Post by MamIDdau on Jul 24, 2007 19:46:45 GMT
My buddleias are in heavy clay soil...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2007 20:20:12 GMT
From our back garden. Cut this right back last year and it's now about 20' tall, but it does provide a nice screen for our lower garden  |
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Post by nightowl on Jul 25, 2007 9:20:11 GMT
Oooh DG, you're on dangerous ground, posting a pic of a 20ft one on here!!!  Think you are heading for a  too!!! Or maybe that's what you were after?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2007 9:30:11 GMT
;D
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Post by Rosefriend on Jul 25, 2007 19:48:18 GMT
Mmmmh dear DG - well I feel that NO is right - you are on very dangerous ground here - 20 FEET.............20 FEET............. What a bu**er - congratulations - mmmmh you looked so nice in your photo........ incredible how one can be fooled isn't it............  RF |
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Post by Dutchy on Jul 31, 2007 19:03:15 GMT
Ah another person who does IT. I could ask Aprilaydee how big her Buddleia grow in her clay soil. Promise I will not hurt you in case it is big and healthy. Mine is doing ok sort of .. It has whopping fat flowers right now. No not big just short and fat. I dared not risk taking a pic of the whole plant as it is feeble at the moment but here is one of a hoverfly on one of its flowers. Pretend it is about the fly not the plant.  Oh and before I forget.... You know for whom it is..... |
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Post by MamIDdau on Jul 31, 2007 19:32:38 GMT
Mine has grown a couple of foot since I got it earlier this year and the other one at the end of the garden was about 6ft tall before I hacked it right down. It's now about 1ft tall. I don't know what it was like before last winter though, it might have already been trimmed back or it might have been completely neglected, I dunno!
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Post by Dutchy on Jul 31, 2007 19:55:27 GMT
Sounds more like the kind of growth we get here too.
Clay is probably not the easiest soil for a Buddleia.
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Post by andy on Jul 31, 2007 20:12:07 GMT
I haven't read any of this thread except this page  so appologies if it's been done but has anyone grown the yellow buddleia...B. Weyeriana or B madagascarensis. Both are very similar and hybrids of B. Globosa. I had one a few years ago and i gave it to a neighbour but he killed it. Lovely small spikes...not as perfectly formed spikes as most buddleias....of creamy yellow flowers. Absolutely gorgeous |
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Post by Shrubrose on Jul 31, 2007 20:25:25 GMT
Dutchy, that's a magnificent photo of the buddleia. It just shouts at you.
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Post by jean on Jul 31, 2007 20:31:58 GMT
Glad you have some flowers Dutchy. Perhaps you are just trying to hard. It seems that in the UK they survive against all odds, perhaps a bit of neglect might do wonders. Mum has one that has rooted through the pot into the ground, no where near as big as one planted into the soil but its survives with little attention.
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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 1, 2007 15:06:11 GMT
ooooooooooo Dutchy - how could you - it looks gorgeous........... I wanted to see the yellow leaves and spindly growth though.......
My flowers were short and fat as well this year instead of long and gracious. Suppose it all depends what you like but I have heard that we are in for a terribly hard winter on this side of the water Dutchy, so take loads of pics because it could be the last ones.....
My Pink Delight was a waste of time this year and Black Knight was - acceptable, let's put it that way.
I tried the UK approach - tread on it, treat it like dirt, let it grow in concrete and stone as OM does, never feed it and just pretend it doesn't belong to you at all.
Well I do pretend that it doesn't belong to me on a regular basis, - that is when it looks awful, but this harsh treatment doesn't become our Buddleia's Dutchy does it?
So - once again I have fed them, loved them, talked to them, threatened them and guess what - they are alive - what more could one wish for!!!!
RF
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Post by Dutchy on Aug 1, 2007 18:28:12 GMT
hmhmhmh OK I will take a pic of the whole plant then.
As for care through hardship.
It will soon get that when I give up and give it to the neighbours who need new plants this autumn as all has to come out for a new fence and most won't survive.
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Post by Dutchy on Aug 1, 2007 18:29:25 GMT
Dutchy, that's a magnificent photo of the buddleia. It just shouts at you. |
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Post by Dutchy on Aug 3, 2007 19:07:07 GMT
The Buddleia in al its glory.   But then up closer  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2007 17:18:03 GMT
This is for OM ... RF and Dutchy, please look away now.
The crack in my wall has widened, so the Buddleia will definitely have to go in the autumn, and I think I've come up with a solution that might also help you: I was going to chop it down as much as possible, and then wrap a sturdy black bin bag (the kind you get from builder's suppliers) around the stumps to exclude any light - sort of like a weed suppressing membrane. That should do the trick, shouldn't it? ... cheers ...
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Post by oldmoleskins on Aug 10, 2007 20:17:31 GMT
mmmm, should think so - give it a good hack about and a dosing of SBK brushwood killer at the same time...
OM.
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Post by jean on Aug 10, 2007 20:22:32 GMT
Dutchy, just been looking at your buddleja in its pot, the soil looks very good, maybe that might be your problem, If they can grow in walls they really don't need good soil and TLC. Yank it out of its pot and put loads of grit in with it and don't look at it for a while.  |
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 4, 2007 8:20:02 GMT
Could be. The soil in the lower half was pure sand though.
Whatever it was the deed is done.
The Buddleia has been taken from its pot and has now gone to butterfly heaven where it will grow into a monstrous shrub the size of a house and have lots of flowers to provide for the little butterflies that are there.
I have decided to treat them as annuals from now on and should I see a pretty one in the garden center I will allow myself to get it as a bunch of flowers for temporal use in the garden.
Sigh I can't believe I have caved in on this but I have.
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Post by Rosefriend on Sept 4, 2007 8:37:25 GMT
ooooo Dutchy - throwing in the towel - I never would have though it of you.
I have decided to try and get mine through the winter again this year - glutton for punishment I am.....
RF
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 6, 2007 7:41:03 GMT
 Sigh. I will be watching your winter torture project with great interest ;D |
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Post by Dutchy on Oct 2, 2007 17:16:33 GMT
Erm Rosefriend ....
Did I tell you about the plants in MssK's garden/allotment?
Guess what is there....
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It is about 9 feet tall has lovely tall dark purple flowers ( all spend now ) and seems very healthy.
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And now some one has told me that I should really give it a haircut before winter.....
NOOOOOOOO I hardly dare look at it and I am worried I dug through the first of its roots as I was continuing my "digging the garden over" project.
I now very tentatively scrape the soil free of weeds without going in there.
Could you please keep your fingers crossed for this magnifi... no I did not look at it.... specimen of dare I say....
Buddleia
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so appologies if it's been done but has anyone grown the yellow buddleia...B. Weyeriana or B madagascarensis. Both are very similar and hybrids of B. Globosa.
