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Post by Ron on May 24, 2015 4:07:09 GMT
This is the other cutting thats flowered, its lovely but I have no recollection when/where I got the cutting from. This is its second flower this year and it is perfumed. Any ideas anyone Long time since the question, Chuckles, I know. Only just had a look around. Looks a lot like 'Painted Moon' to me, a beauty that I used to grow. www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.146192Also similar to 'Josephs Coat'. www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.245897 |
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Post by Chuckles on May 24, 2015 16:58:49 GMT
This is the other cutting thats flowered, its lovely but I have no recollection when/where I got the cutting from. This is its second flower this year and it is perfumed. Any ideas anyone Long time since the question, Chuckles, I know. Only just had a look around. Looks a lot like 'Painted Moon' to me, a beauty that I used to grow. www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.146192Also similar to 'Josephs Coat'. www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.245897Thanks for that Rony, Painted Moon looks like its a good contender. I have quite a few rose cuttings on the go, climbers Meg, Summer Wine, Masquerade and a white unknown, rambler Ghislaine de Féligonde, others Blush Noisette, Mrs Oakley Fisher and several other unknowns  |
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Post by Ron on May 24, 2015 20:18:14 GMT
If I had my own place again and with a decent sized garden, first thing I would do is fill it with roses. I miss them. Has Meg, Summer Wine and Blush Noisette along with a lot of others, about 100 in all.
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Post by Ladygardener on Jun 10, 2015 6:09:23 GMT
One of my Roses has what I think is a sucker growing a little bit away from the 3 main branches. What is the best way to deal with this Rosefriend? |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jun 10, 2015 6:31:09 GMT
One of my Roses has what I think is a sucker growing a little bit away from the 3 main branches. What is the best way to deal with this Rosefriend? There are some roses that throw a proper stem out a little away from the main stems but normally they are suckers...if you are sure - the leaves will be different etc, then pull it gently back to the main stem (if you cut it off where it is it will grow back immediately) and if you can, pull it down and tear it off - that should stop it reoccurring... If you are afraid of ripping the rose apart then cut it off as near to the main stem as you can...the start of it will be under the bud grafting...I often dig down an inch or so with my fingers to find the right place... |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jun 10, 2015 6:39:23 GMT
Rosefriend thanks very much for your sound advice and description of what I should do. The new growth is very different to the main one, dull leaves instead of shiny and a different colour. It's in a container so should it be easy enough to do as you suggest. I did'nt know the sucker would start below the graft either.
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Post by Tig on Jun 12, 2015 9:20:44 GMT
I'm a little bit disappointed - the rose I bought in memory of my neighbour who died last October was labelled as Queen Elizabeth (with a picture of the pink rose on the packet). Today it has opened it's first flower, and it isn't what it should be  I'm wondering if it could be Rose Scarlet Queen Elizabeth, be interested to hear what others think.  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jun 12, 2015 18:37:28 GMT
I'm a little bit disappointed - the rose I bought in memory of my neighbour who died last October was labelled as Queen Elizabeth (with a picture of the pink rose on the packet). Today it has opened it's first flower, and it isn't what it should be I'm wondering if it could be Rose Scarlet Queen Elizabeth, be interested to hear what others think. I have been having a gander on the web and I feel that yours hasn't got enough yellow in it to be the Scarlet Rose Elizabeth - at the same time, earth, weather etc etc can change such things , as you know... The only thing that I do know is that it is sooo damn annoying and disappointing when things like this happen, especially when it is in memory of someone..shame that Fozzie isn't here anymore - he was a whizz at this type of thing..!! |
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Post by Tig on Jun 12, 2015 18:52:03 GMT
I found this one on the Peter Beales site RF which doesn't show any of the yellow but is very similar in form. I have found others with a little more yellow, so as you say it could be the conditions. At least I didn't plant it in a mainly pink border so it doesn't look out of place where it is, otherwise I would have had to move it. www.classicroses.co.uk/products/roses/scarlet-queen-elizabeth/ |
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Post by Rosefriend on Jun 12, 2015 19:04:47 GMT
I found this one on the Peter Beales site RF which doesn't show any of the yellow but is very similar in form. I have found others with a little more yellow, so as you say it could be the conditions. At least I didn't plant it in a mainly pink border so it doesn't look out of place where it is, otherwise I would have had to move it. www.classicroses.co.uk/products/roses/scarlet-queen-elizabeth/Well that certainly looks like it Tig, - I think I would be inclined to say Yes and keep it to remember your neighbour...one thing is for certain, it would be appreciated, I bet... |
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Post by Ladygardener on Jun 13, 2015 6:09:43 GMT
Rosefriend, I've taken off the sucker thanks for your help. Tig it's a lovely Rose none the less.
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Post by Dutchy on Jun 17, 2015 6:52:28 GMT
Either way it is a lovely rose and your neighbour always had a garden that did it's own thing so having a surprise in the rose is exactly right isn't it?
I'd keep it RF.
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Post by Rosefriend on Jun 17, 2015 12:18:39 GMT
Either way it is a lovely rose and your neighbour always had a garden that did it's own thing so having a surprise in the rose is exactly right isn't it? I'd keep it RF. You've confused me with Tig, Dutchy,....old age eh...hahahahaha - bet you clobber me when I see you in a few days time... |
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Post by Dutchy on Jun 18, 2015 6:39:33 GMT
Nah, I am too old for doing a clobbering. But I am honing my ability of nasty remarks.......  Tig Got you mixed up but the remark remains. It is a lovely rose and if the ladies of fortune made you get it then this is the one. It will in the end make you smile as it is already building more memories than you expected. |
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Post by Tig on Apr 2, 2016 18:25:33 GMT
I have five bareroot roses on order, due to arrive shortly - Buff Beauty, Dixieland Linda, Ferdinand Pichard, Rosa Mundi & Louise Odier. All picked for scent (I hope), & will be planted in memory of various people recently departed. I have identified where they are going to be planted, but am a little worried if any of them arrive with very long roots, will I be OK to prune off the lead root if they have Rosefriend? |
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 2, 2016 18:35:06 GMT
I have five bareroot roses on order, due to arrive shortly - Buff Beauty, Dixieland Linda, Ferdinand Pichard, Rosa Mundi & Louise Odier. All picked for scent (I hope), & will be planted in memory of various people recently departed. I have identified where they are going to be planted, but am a little worried if any of them arrive with very long roots, will I be OK to prune off the lead root if they have Rosefriend? Ferdinand Pritchard, Rosa Mundi and Louise Odier I know well and have had, Buff Beauty I know and it is lovely - Dixieland Linda I have never heard of - not that it makes any difference Tig. The roses should be delivered in a state that you top and tail them - that is prune back the shoots and the roots. When you get them bung them for 24 hours in a bucket of water, then take them out and prune the shoots and the roots by around half - if they are only 2 inches to start with, then I would be careful - lol !! Plant them straight away with the bud grafting 5cms/2 inches under the ground...as usual!! Make sure that you do not plant where a rose once was - if so take earth out, and fill it back with fresh earth... If you are in doubt with one of them then take a pic and I will show you where to prune back... |
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Post by Tig on Apr 2, 2016 18:45:48 GMT
Thanks RF, I knew I could rely on you for advice. I'm hoping they will be in fine fettle when they get here as they are from Peter Beales and I have bought off them before. The spaces I've got planned have not had roses in previously so they should be OK in that respect, the length of the roots will be the only challenge so that I can get them planted at the right depth. I'll take a pic if I'm unsure how much I can hack off. Is it a straight cut or an angled cut for the roots?
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 2, 2016 18:47:47 GMT
Thanks RF, I knew I could rely on you for advice. I'm hoping they will be in fine fettle when they get here as they are from Peter Beales and I have bought off them before. The spaces I've got planned have not had roses in previously so they should be OK in that respect, the length of the roots will be the only challenge so that I can get them planted at the right depth. I'll take a pic if I'm unsure how much I can hack off. Is it a straight cut or an angled cut for the roots? An angled cut will encourage new growth Tig,....you can take half off without any problems...more if they are very long.. |
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Post by andy on Apr 6, 2016 5:08:13 GMT
Just planted 25 Rosa 'Absolutely Fabulous' at work. Anyone grow it ?
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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 6, 2016 5:27:15 GMT
Just planted 25 Rosa 'Absolutely Fabulous' at work. Anyone grow it ? Isn't that the one that is yellow and smells of Liquorice or Aniseed, some strange rose smell anyway andy,?? |
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Post by Ron on Apr 6, 2016 16:38:14 GMT
Just planted 25 Rosa 'Absolutely Fabulous' at work. Anyone grow it ? Isn't that the one that is yellow and smells of Liquorice or Aniseed, some strange rose smell anyway andy ,?? I had this rose at my previous address and it does have that licquorice smell, quite strongly as well. It bloomed well when established, quite prolific and healthy. It fades to a whitish colour with the yellow remaining in the centre and used to be sold as 'Julia Child'. |
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Post by Ron on Apr 7, 2016 3:55:09 GMT
Rosefriend, andy, I grew Absolutely Fabulous with two others that I thought (IMHO) were of a similar form, Simply the Best and Super Trouper. Of the three, I thought Super Trouper was the best, having more blooms and keeping its colour for longer. Ab Fab was better for fragrance though.
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Post by fozzie on Aug 2, 2016 22:36:11 GMT
Making a wish list for additions to the containers. In containers so far I have R.viriniana (to show what roses should be),Dr Grill, Fimbriata, La Reine, R.Gallica, Souvinir de la Malmaison and Mme Hardy ( to show how we have improved !! them) Mrs Oakley Fisher ( to show what a good HT looks like) and National Trust (to show how we have improved the HT) I also have Alister stella Grey and R. moyesii in BIG pots (70 litre). My wish list so far is Gruss an Aachen, Comte de Chambord, White Wing, Nuit de Young and Empress Josephine. All I need now is a bank loan !!
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Post by fozzie on Aug 4, 2016 22:34:05 GMT
Last November I "borrowed" some seeds from a neighbour, who was pruning his rugosa. I now have a dozen or more little seedlings in pots. Not sure what they will look like as he has R.alba and a pink (unknown R.rubra maybe), Amsurpriswed at the number of viable seeds and number that germinated, have whittled down to a dozen or so.
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Post by Barbara on Aug 17, 2016 11:30:23 GMT
I bought a rose a few weeks ago, a climber called 'schoolgirl' it's just finished flowering, do I dead head it now or what. do I feed it or not ?thanks in anticipation.
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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 17, 2016 13:03:49 GMT
I bought a rose a few weeks ago, a climber called 'schoolgirl' it's just finished flowering, do I dead head it now or what. do I feed it or not ?thanks in anticipation. Certainly dead head it Barbara as it is a repeat flowering climber and the temps in the UK are milder so it could well flower again this year. I personally wouldn't feed it this year as it is too late. New growth could die if a long cold spell comes in the winter. Give it a good feed in the spring and once again no later than the end of July... |
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Post by Barbara on Aug 17, 2016 13:35:32 GMT
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Post by fozzie on Aug 18, 2016 7:43:23 GMT
Barbara, in this its first year and, if its not too late, leave a few flower heads on. You can then evaluate the heps, I think they can add winter colour. If she does have a second flush of blooms I would let the seed heads set unless they show signs of die back.
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Post by Barbara on Aug 19, 2016 11:37:32 GMT
I'm not a rose grower fozzie, so I haven't a clue what the heck the heps are. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Aug 19, 2016 13:17:53 GMT
I'm not a rose grower fozzie, so I haven't a clue what the heck the heps are. Hahahaha - think Fozzie means "hips" Barbara,...some people like to keep a few on for winter.... |
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I'm wondering if it could be Rose Scarlet Queen Elizabeth, be interested to hear what others think. 
