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Post by Rosefriend on Apr 6, 2007 16:58:55 GMT
Hi Rosefan and Fozzie
Well what you have both said certainly makes sense to me - I must admit that as this is the first time that it has happened to one of my Roses, I hadn't thought so much about the difference in temperatures that we have.
Also I don't have HT's except Queen Elizabeth and one other.
The reason that I mentioned roots was that I went over to the neighbours garden and found that his ivy has got very bad and directly next to some of my Roses - well a fence is in between but that won't stop Ivy. However as you say Rosefan if the plant is healthy then the roots should be OK, although I wouldn't be surprised at some kind of root strangulation in the future.
I have pruned back very hard this time so at the moment nothing is showing but I will keep an eye on it.
Thanks for the tips and although I mound up all my roses for winter and also my standards are totally covered in fleece I never thought so much of the temperature difference in Spring.
RF
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Post by 4pygmies on May 15, 2007 21:13:33 GMT
I went to a rather tatty GC today and wasn't at all impressed with the plants except for this UTTERLY GORGEOUS little rose with pale green flowers. It wasn't named and I couldn't find anyone who knew anything about it so I'm hoping someone here can help....It was small leaved and the flowers were almost Chintz like. It was £9 so I didn't buy it but I wish I had......PLEASE can someone tell what it was and where I can get it online....(or I'll have to drive back there...)
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Post by 4pygmies on May 17, 2007 15:47:03 GMT
None of our rose experts gonna help me then? Ah well, never mind.
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Post by Rosefriend on May 17, 2007 16:02:56 GMT
Hi 4P I was so hoping that someone else would answer this but I think they are having the same problems as I am. There is only one rose that I know that is green and that is the miniature rose "Green Ice". There are others as far as I know. However I do not know anything about it - only the name. Is this it?   RF |
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Post by fozzie on May 17, 2007 17:59:38 GMT
4P Sorry, I have had some serious probs with hardware now looks like broadband has turned into snail! I have found 3 others, but having trouble getting pics up will keep trying
Fxx
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Post by fozzie on May 17, 2007 18:32:00 GMT
 The Green Rose, its big a species so possible not the one  This is greensleeves a floribunda so maybe!  Green diamond a minature so maybe again, still trying to locate a nursery sorry re pics best at moment try this site www.helpmefind.com/rose/ to look for Green Diamond found better pic of green sleeves   Fxx |
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Post by 4pygmies on May 17, 2007 18:55:47 GMT
Thanks Fozzie - the Green Diamond looks more like it - the petals were tightly furled on the one I saw but the colour is quite similar. I asked at another GC today but the expert said he thought green flowers on a rose were an abomination! Obviously not the right man to approach.......my rose was very subtle and beautiful, not at all an abomination! I shall go and google now. Cheers!
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Post by jean on May 17, 2007 20:07:54 GMT
I'm looking for suggestions for a white climbing rose to plant along side a "smoke" bush. the aspect is full sun and the area I want to cover is a 6' high hit and miss fence with spread/cover approx 12 '. I should also say that I don't want something that is fussy to look after, just something that will get on with it, with little intervention. Any ideas?
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Post by grannyjanny on May 17, 2007 20:51:21 GMT
OH & I had a day out on Tuesday. We went to Wyevale first & got some things we needed. I thought we would have some lunch there but OH said we were going to Tatton Park & we could have lunch there before going round the gardens. We had a lovely time & the rhododendrons were beautiful.
I thought here is my chance. I said while we are in the area can we call at Fryers GC to pick up Rhapsody in Blue. All in all a lovely day. I just need to get Black Baccara now.
Janet.
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Post by fozzie on May 17, 2007 21:38:41 GMT
GrannyJ, do you go to that GC on Tuesdays for the same reason I do? This I like as a substitute to most of the modern "blues"  Reine des Violettes how about this as a sub for your Black Baccara  called Black Prince They are both Hybrid Perpetuals , I am not suggesting you change, these are the ones I would choose. Fxx |
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Post by fozzie on May 17, 2007 21:40:19 GMT
JL. I have a few ideas, I'll look them up tomorrow and post a few names for you to look up!
Fxx
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Post by 4pygmies on May 18, 2007 6:04:46 GMT
Rosefriend, I seem to have ignored your post - I'm so sorry! I was so intent on finding the rose name I just zoomed in on the pictures - didn't mean to be rude!
I had a good google yesterday and I don't think either Green Ice or Green Diamond are quite right - the leaves on the former are the right size but the colour of the second is more accurate. When I get a minute I may have to ring the nursery and see if they'll save me a plant if there are any left. Thanks for answering anyway. Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2007 7:13:32 GMT
Hi 4P ‘Green Ice’ and Green Diamond’ are miniature roses bred by Ralph Moore in USA. I don’t know if they are commercially available in Europe!! There is another miniature rose bred by Kordes (Germany) - ‘Pepermint’ which is described as having cream green flowers. Here it is  As far as I know the so called Kordana potroses are marketed by Rosa Danica. ‘Greensleeves’ is a floribunda bred by Harkness in UK and can be bought at Peater Beales. They say it is a chartreuse-green, semi-double rose even if in their photo the colour is somewhat different. But the colour depends on the enviromental conditions. www.classicroses.co.uk/roses/g/greensleeves.htmlActually how big was the rose ? How big were the flowers? The miniature roses usually are sold as 3 or 4 little plants in one pot. I hope you will have the rose and that someone will be able to identify it, as the green colour is quite unusual for a rose. Rosefan |
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Post by 4pygmies on May 18, 2007 10:50:34 GMT
Hi Rosefan, I REALLY wish I'd bought this rose - it's beginning to wind me up now! The plant was quite small, only 30cms high I would guess, with very small dark green leaves and the flowers were only about 5/6cms across - fairly flat with their centre petals tucked inwards. I'm fairly sure there was only one plant in the pot. The colour could best be described as a pale green with creamy and palest pink tints - it was soooo pretty! I can't find anything quite like it anywhere.......what excuse can I find for a 50 mile round trip to go get it....?
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Post by Chuckles on May 18, 2007 10:58:47 GMT
what excuse can I find for a 50 mile round trip to go get it....? It sounds divine so no excuse needed go get it 4P, an hour and a half and you could have it home and be sat looking at it. GO GO GO  Ring and make sure they have still got it first though ;D |
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Post by 4pygmies on May 18, 2007 11:02:23 GMT
Hello Chuckles, dear! How are you? Sound advice as ever - and I always do as I'm told.......
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Post by fozzie on May 18, 2007 14:18:21 GMT
I'm looking for suggestions for a white climbing rose to plant along side a "smoke" bush. the aspect is full sun and the area I want to cover is a 6' high hit and miss fence with spread/cover approx 12 '. I should also say that I don't want something that is fussy to look after, just something that will get on with it, with little intervention. Any ideas? JL if me I'd choose Mme Alfred Carriere  Or Alberic Barbier (Cream)  Some other whites are Seagull  nd New Dawn-White the pic is New Dawn just imagine it white!  Try this for something diffent it should go well with your Smoke Bush colouring Maigold  Fxx |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2007 16:24:13 GMT
4Pygmies, it seems that your rose is a miniature/patio but I cant think about which one can be. Maybe you will go back for it and if they dont know what is the name, perhaps can tell from where have it. Jlottie, I have 'New Dawn', which is a really good rambler. It has soft pale china pink, fragrant flowers and dark glossy small leaves. It is fast growing, winter resistent and very disease resistent. It needs little care just training and cutting the spent flowers. Here is a photo at my office, the rose is in it's third year I think.  |
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Post by grannyjanny on May 18, 2007 20:30:44 GMT
Hi Fozzie. If you mean 10o/o off + a free coffee, then yes. Thanks for your kind suggestions. The reason I want the black baccara is because it was in 2 of our daughters wedding bouquets & several people on this site have grown rhapsody in blue & really love it. I will bear your blue suggestion when my RiB has flowered.
Janet.
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Post by jean on May 18, 2007 20:50:29 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions Fozzie & Rosefan, I will be searching the local GC's over the next couple of weekends ;D
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Post by 4pygmies on May 19, 2007 12:45:49 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on May 19, 2007 17:30:12 GMT
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Post by Chuckles on May 19, 2007 17:31:50 GMT
WOW 4P it is stunning and very healthy looking too. Pot looks quite small to me but I'm sure the rosey trio will be able to tell you what best to do with it. So glad you went and got it, you'd have regretted it if you hadn't Were you very good and only bought the rose ;D |
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Post by 4pygmies on May 19, 2007 17:51:51 GMT
No, I'm quite sure you're right RF - I didn't think it sounded like a name! I can't get the link to work I'm afraid. My photos aren't very good so you can't see the lovely subtle shades of pink under each bloom. And the petals are wonderfully like old fragile faded hand made paper.
Um, wasn't THAT good Chuckles...also bought 2 Phygelus (one pink, one cream), a Tradescantia and 2 variegated Schrophularia - a vile name for a nice looking plant but one which appeals to me!
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Post by grannyjanny on May 19, 2007 20:16:10 GMT
Hi 4P. It probably won't bother you as I think you have a large garden but the phygelius will spread a lot with runners. I had one & it was a b****r to dig up as it was coming up through other plants in the border.
Janet.
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Post by 4pygmies on May 19, 2007 20:21:35 GMT
Hi GrannyJanny, OK, thanks for that warning - I'll be careful where I put it then!
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Post by Chuckles on May 24, 2007 10:54:36 GMT
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Post by fozzie on May 24, 2007 14:12:44 GMT
To ALL
Regarding missing pics. Apologies had yet another senior moment managed to delete all my pics. Its easy when you do not have a clue what your doing. Promise not to touch delete button again. For years I've been blaming William Gates Esq, perhaps I should have looked closer to home.
Foz
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Post by fozzie on May 24, 2007 14:14:55 GMT
Slippery I'm on the case, don't hold your breath, but I will try for you
Fx
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Post by Chuckles on May 26, 2007 19:13:38 GMT
Flippin heck Fozzie you have been busy  I'll be reading No 4 as soon as I get a chance. Loved the others, infact I often scan through them and re read bits. Brilliant  |
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I'll be reading No 4 as soon as I get a chance. Loved the others, infact I often scan through them and re read bits. Brilliant 