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Post by oldmoleskins on Jul 22, 2008 11:53:57 GMT
Don't think it's honeysuckle or Mock Orange... should have been more descriptive: tall bamboo-like stems, has been there ages judging by stock of old stems but still confined to two clumps each no bigger than the top of a 10litre pot...
OM.
ps sorry, this is going a bit off-topic... if you do have an idea what it might be, maybe post in Old Moley's Garden?
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Post by Chuckles on Aug 15, 2008 11:35:29 GMT
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Post by fozzie on Aug 16, 2008 20:09:19 GMT
Chuckles, You and me both its been on my "to get" list for a while now. She is quite breath taking and a stunning plant for one so small in stature. Its a China rose aka Tipo Ideale or Rosa. turkestancica. Ideal for a pot or container can get to 6 foot but more than likely 3. The colours of the peatals will change more vidily in hot sunny climates. Which is possible why she is still on my TG list up here in the frozen north. If you do buy one she may need the shelter of a wall in the winter. Plus regular watering and feeding, as per normal for container plants.
F
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Post by Chuckles on Aug 16, 2008 21:26:16 GMT
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Post by fozzie on Aug 17, 2008 17:01:45 GMT
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Post by Chuckles on Aug 23, 2008 15:22:01 GMT
Well Warm Welcome has arrived and is really healthy looking, must get it potted up. I was very tempted to order another and have them growing up into a low arch in one of the borders. I've changed my mind now Fozzie ;D after looking at the links my wish list was getting too big ;D I particularly love Mrs Oakley Fisher and as soon as I read it was highly scented and continuous flowering that was it, on wish list. Anglele is lovely too, again scent and continuous flowering, on wish list. I love white in the garden and White Wings has that lovely pink tinge to the edge of the petals, loved it and wanted it but I must be good, no scent mentioned so that helped me decide.
Isn't it lovely when a bloke encourages a woman to spend money ;D
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Post by fozzie on Aug 27, 2008 17:50:25 GMT
BB,
Glad to hear Warm Welcome has arrived. If it was me I would balance the arch with another rose. And again if it was me it would be the same rose on each side. You could add an extra dimension by planting a Clem or two! If your thinking of using Beales then he has Warm Welcome in his catologue, bare rooted, delivery around Nov/Dec. I guess the one from Crocus would be in a pot?
I have both White Wings and Mrs Oakley and I am sorely tempted to add Agele to my order for Dainty Bess. Did not mention her earlier, as not sure re colour and only mild scent!
You have reverted to type.... which one did you choose, or did you not say so I can guess and get it wrong?
Very philosophical about spending money, as long your purchases give you pleasure and enjoyment and do not terminally strain the budget, I see no problem. It could be hanbags or saucepans for Mrs F or plants, mainly Roses for me!
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Post by Chuckles on Aug 31, 2008 9:43:54 GMT
;D Fozzie you are encouraging me again but I whole heartedly agree with your philosophy on spending money. Yesterday I bought a handbag ;D and because I love plants more I've placed my order this morning with Beales for 4 bare root roses......Angèle Pernet, Mrs Oakley Fisher, Mutabilis and another Warm Welcome. Had a nice surprise when I got to the checkout...... 15% off 3 or more bare root roses. Do let us know which 3 you order ;D Forgot to say...... Warm Welcome from Crocus was in a pot  and any ideas for Juliet with this gardenworld.proboards103.com/index.cgi?board=borders&action=display&thread=6636 |
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Post by fozzie on Sept 2, 2008 21:33:12 GMT
BB,
I have posted an answer to Juliet.
Three! I only have two on my list, or is this further evidence of your feminine guile or subterfuge. My wish list is so long I can neither afford the space nor money. But one day… You will be the first to know when I order this years rose or TWO.
On a serious note if your roses arrive say Nov/Dec and you plant them up right away into pots. It would be worth wrapping the pots up in “bubble wrap” or a couple of layers of “fleece” till March, just in case we get a hard winter. Warm Welcome will be happy in the ground, where her feet will be warmer than those in the pots, if unprotected.
Fxx
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 17, 2008 6:55:49 GMT
Found this info on doing cuttings on an Irish board. The things Google spits out eh ;D Maybe some one else likes this info too. Quote; This is my first "secret"--okay, perhaps it's not a secret, more something that a lot of people don't give a lot of thought to. I like to take them in autumn (or should that be the fall, for Americans?) once the sap has dried up a little. But WHEN exactly to take them? During a full moon. A day either side of a full moon is fine, but do this and your strike rate will increase, I guarantee it! The second thing that I do, is use what i call willow water. Strip some bark off willow branches (any variety will do) and soak this in a tub with enough water to cover for a few days. Willow bark contains a strong root promoting hormone, as good or better than any you can buy. Now when you take your cuttings, allow them to stand in a jar of the "willow water" for two or three days. Planting Your Cuttings I like to find a nice sunny spot in the garden--not too damp, and preferably sandy. If you like, you can mix a little river sand in (not salty beach sand!) which will help stimulate root growth. I don't find damaging the ends of the cuttings helps me at all with getting a good strike rate. I just make a nice clean cut. Each cutting should have 2-4 buds...remove the leaves from the cutting -- this will help with keeping the cutting alive over the winter. And that's it! Come back in the spring to see how you did. Follow these simple steps and you will have more free roses than you know what to do with. AJ is the owner of www.love-of-roses.com a site for everything to do with roses. Pictures, free wallpaper, tips, and rose books. More pictures are being added daily, with non copyrighted pictures that you can use for web sites, home computer etc. |
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Post by fozzie on Sept 22, 2008 17:10:40 GMT
Dutchy thats good info.
Not sure about using moon cycles, I know a lot do, I have never tried it. As for willow it contains something that STOPS the cutting from healing over therefore helps rooting. I have never used it, I nearly always get 50% success by just shoving them into the gtound! But I did hear somewhere that you can use any soft tissue from the tree just chop it up and add boiling water. Let it stand overnight, then soak the cuttings as your Irish info says. Also heard that Asprin has Willow in it. So adding Willow, or some of that mixture, to a vase of flowers will have the same effect as an Asprin. Not tried that either.
Foz
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Post by Dutchy on Sept 22, 2008 17:56:46 GMT
Heard that about Aspirin in water for flowers too but a dutch test showed it did not make any difference so don't spend the painkillers on flowers.
I think I will try some of that rooting trick with willow bark though.
( Be it on a bright blue Salvia )
See if it works. Thanks for the extra info on boiling the bark.
I might be lazy and just dump some in a bucket.
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Post by fozzie on Sept 22, 2008 18:14:21 GMT
I have a willow nearby so I will also give it a go on some rose cuttings. It could be Spring before we have an answer. So this could ne a long experiment.
Dutchy, does this mean we have to do two lots one with and one without to see the difference??
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Post by Dutchy on Nov 12, 2008 18:31:08 GMT
Oops  guess what I completely lost track of. I did do the Salvia cuttings just the other week, too late probably, and the bit about the willow bark completely left my brain.. Sorry Fozzie it's a non experiment I fear.  |
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Post by Dutchy on Nov 17, 2008 18:30:48 GMT
Salvia cutting still looking fresh and happy I had a closer look at the rose cuttings OM send me. Not a leaf left on them but but  there are minute, maybe 1/2 mm, green buds forming where I would expect the new leaves for next year. What part of next year did the cuttings not understand? Is this good or bad? Should they try to grow now, right before winter? |
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Post by Chuckles on Nov 30, 2008 12:55:33 GMT
;D Fozzie you are encouraging me again but I whole heartedly agree with your philosophy on spending money. Yesterday I bought a handbag ;D and because I love plants more I've placed my order this morning with Beales for 4 bare root roses......Angèle Pernet, Mrs Oakley Fisher, Mutabilis and another Warm Welcome. Had a nice surprise when I got to the checkout...... 15% off 3 or more bare root roses. Do let us know which 3 you order ;D Well ;D ;D my bare rooted Angèle Pernet, Mrs Oakley Fisher, Mutabilis and Warm Welcome safely arrived yesterday. They look like really good strong bushes, now all I've got to do is get them planted in thier pots. Can't say I relish doing that in this weather  |
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Post by fozzie on Dec 1, 2008 18:10:43 GMT
Hey BB.
Thats good, glad Peter did not let you down after my reccomendation. If you are anything like us up here, minus lots or bruddy cold, depending on how polite you are! It may be best to delay for a bit, they would normally be happy in a cool dry place for upto a week. the attached "instructions", always makes me laugh, should indicate such. As for me.. Mrs Fs clothing for expensive wedding in Alberta over Christmas is costing nearly as much as flights so no new roses for me this year, I 'm sorry to say. Might sneak in one of yours Angèle Pernet, come Jan.
Fxx
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Post by Chuckles on Dec 5, 2008 13:24:05 GMT
Oh dear Fozzie you are gonna have to cut Mrs F's clothing budget down ;D
They did come with good instructions and very well packed I have to say. They are currently sort of healed in in a large plastic tub in the GH. I need to carry the pots up there for them to be planted in and the bags of home made compo and leaf mold I have ready for them. Will have to get OH to help me put them in a sheltered place once they are planted up, then come spring they can be placed somewhere nice in the garden.
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Post by fozzie on Dec 6, 2008 21:06:25 GMT
Thats the joy of container/pot gardening you can change your mind on placement at the drop of a hat. And it all happens without getting your hands dirty , digging holes or worrying about "correct" time to do the move.  Will def. get Angele, on return from the colonies. Am taking last years Beales catalogue to read on the plane! I will get Mrs F to choose her favourite from those I will have marked. Then its her decision not mine  Do you think that will work? I'll let you know. Looking forward to seeing the results of your handy work come next year Fxx |
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Post by Chuckles on Feb 12, 2009 19:06:49 GMT
Well I eventually got my new roses potted up, a few weeks ago now they are all showing good new shoots so they must be happy in the mixture of home compo, leaf mold and a bit of soil from the garden. I didn't put anything extra in and am wondering now if I should have. Hope you had a good trip Fozzie and that Mrs F made the right choices from the marked roses in the Beales catalogue |
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Post by jean on Mar 7, 2009 20:25:32 GMT
Fozzie can you reccommend an old fashioned climbing rose for a large arch. Preferably dark red that will give a long blooming period and scent would be good too  |
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 8, 2009 17:41:49 GMT
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 8, 2009 17:54:54 GMT
I have just had an E-mail from Foz and he sends his best to everyone and will be back soon.
Oddly enough the first rose was in an article that I have just finished reading in the German Rose Society and it was considered rather good.
Surpassing Beauty I have never heard of but I rather like the sound of it. Not too keen on the middle one though - the HT - as Chuckles says HT's rarely make bushy climbers.
RF
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Post by beanie on Mar 9, 2009 10:05:45 GMT
Hi rosefriend I grow Dr Jamaine, it is better with some shade, as in full sun it goes to a muddy purple. beautiful scent though
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 9, 2009 10:33:02 GMT
Hi beanie - thanks for that. Unfortunately it is true of quite a few dark red roses - either they go darker and not so nice, or they have the tendency to burn easily.
RF
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Post by jean on Mar 11, 2009 21:09:42 GMT
Thanks for the ideas Tig, I will pass them on to my sister, I'm sure they will be just what she is after |
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Post by Tig on Mar 13, 2009 20:01:40 GMT
I think they were Chuckles suggestions Jean ;D
I have an unkown 'modern' rose growing in the front garden which was here when we came back in 1992. It is behind the choysia which has somewhat swamped it, and it has not dropped its leaves all winter. It is now starting to sprout fresh growth. Can I leave it at over 3' tall, or would I be better cutting it back and letting the new growth sprout in the dark lower down? No way would it move, far too old and established.
Any guidance much appreciated.
x Tig
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Post by jean on Mar 13, 2009 21:11:02 GMT
I think they were Chuckles suggestions Jean ;DI have an unkown 'modern' rose growing in the front garden which was here when we came back in 1992. It is behind the choysia which has somewhat swamped it, and it has not dropped its leaves all winter. It is now starting to sprout fresh growth. Can I leave it at over 3' tall, or would I be better cutting it back and letting the new growth sprout in the dark lower down? No way would it move, far too old and established. Any guidance much appreciated. x Tig Oops - thanks Chuckles My sister has had her whole garden made over and is nearly ready to start planting. I'm sure the roses will look wonderful ;D@) |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 14, 2009 3:22:20 GMT
I think they were Chuckles suggestions Jean ;D I have an unknown 'modern' rose growing in the front garden which was here when we came back in 1992. It is behind the choysia which has somewhat swamped it, and it has not dropped its leaves all winter. It is now starting to sprout fresh growth. Can I leave it at over 3' tall, or would I be better cutting it back and letting the new growth sprout in the dark lower down? No way would it move, far too old and established. Any guidance much appreciated. x Tig As I have said before somewhere. I am very much in favour of getting plants to do what I want them to, within the limits that they themselves are capable of doing. A modern HT or bush rose will be become bare underneath if it isn't pruned but if something is covering that up I would let it grow higher. I am sure it will look lovely with the choysia. RF |
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Post by Tig on Mar 14, 2009 15:26:08 GMT
Thanks RF - I will leave it alone, it seems happy enough and the new shoots all look healthy enough. It must be over twenty years old but it still flowers every summer, and I have given it some granular rose food this spring, it may have a new lease of life x Tig |
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guess what I completely lost track of.
there are minute, maybe 1/2 mm, green buds forming where I would expect the new leaves for next year. What part of next year did the cuttings not understand?
