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Post by Chuckles on Mar 18, 2012 17:03:54 GMT
Mmmm very interesting RF, I have some in 5" deep pots and they are the same. They are ones I've had in pots previous years, a dwarf variety, but this year they are true to thier name ;D Out of 8 pots one has grown about 3 inches above the compo and the others about an inch.
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 18, 2012 17:43:33 GMT
Just found this... ''When bulbs do not receive sufficient weeks of cold treatment, they bloom too close to the ground, on too-short stems.''  |
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Post by Tig on Mar 18, 2012 20:41:07 GMT
I wonder if that relates to the emerging foliage rather than the bulbs Jas? Mine are always planted very deep and I doubt that the bulbs ever get truly cold Are there any signs of fungal problems on the foliage? x Tig |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 19, 2012 7:41:06 GMT
I have just had another look and they really look healthy except for the fact that there are no stems...
Mine have had over minus 20C this year, the ground was frozen down to 30cms (12inches) according to the cemetery people a mile away and there was no snow...
I wonder if it has got something to do with the first half of the winter being too warm - they were showing very early - and then suddenly we plummeted and they couldn't draw water...then when it thawed they couldn't get enough water for the leaves and the flowers...dunno - I think that I have confused myself here !!
RF
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 19, 2012 16:20:14 GMT
Well, one good thing, whatever the reaso,n next season they should be ok and back to normal RF!
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Post by Jilly on Mar 19, 2012 18:38:35 GMT
Went to Mum's yesterday, she's got a real Spring garden, so I took a few pics.    . Mum's been overrun with Hellebore seedlings but didn't want to dig any up until they'd flowered, so she could see what she had, think it was worth it, isn't this one a little beauty.  Jillyx |
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 19, 2012 19:20:53 GMT
Went to Mum's yesterday, she's got a real Spring garden, so I took a few pics. Jillyx All your pics are gorgeous Jilly. I love the markings on the hellebore and  for the camellia. |
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Post by Dutchy on Mar 19, 2012 20:00:19 GMT
Ooh yes wow  |
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Post by Missredhead on Mar 19, 2012 20:32:56 GMT
Went to Mum's yesterday, she's got a real Spring garden, so I took a few pics. Jillyx All your pics are gorgeous Jilly. I love the markings on the hellebore and for the camellia.  gorgeous pic..... |
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Post by Jilly on Mar 19, 2012 22:16:26 GMT
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Post by Ladygardener on Mar 20, 2012 6:26:20 GMT
Sorry I can't help with the feeding info Jilly but the Camellia are smashing as are the Hellibore.  |
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 20, 2012 6:35:11 GMT
You can buy special feed for camellias, rhodos and magnolias Jilly. Miracle-Gro do one - I use that - but there may be others. I use the water in one and use a watering can but there is granule feed too. Is the soil slightly chalky where your Mum and Dad are? They may appreciate an ericaceous compost mulch if so Or, some of the soil moving and being replaced with ericaceous compost. |
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Post by Jilly on Mar 20, 2012 8:18:40 GMT
Thanks for the advice Jasmine, I think the soil is slightly chalky where they are. It was never much of a problem before as everything was fed & mulched every year. They used to go to the woods near the bottom of the garden & collect bags & bags of leaf mold.
Jillyx
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 20, 2012 8:26:01 GMT
Good luck Jilly, it's amazing how quickly camellias and rhodos recover with a good feed of the sort of stuff they like!
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Post by carolann on Mar 20, 2012 8:35:10 GMT
I just love this pic Jilly so Spring it has cheered me up so thank you |
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Post by Tig on Mar 20, 2012 15:37:35 GMT
All lovely cheerful photos Jilly. That hellebore is a smasher My camellias are all unhappy, must buy some food! x Tig |
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 20, 2012 21:03:25 GMT
I hate to put some "not so nice" pics on this thread as there are some wonderful photos here but can anyone tell me why all my daffs are stalk-less...?? They don't half look a mess!!   RF I've just been reading a bulb book trying to ID a narcissus and I saw a pic just like this and it said stunted growth displays the symptoms of basal rot. The flowers and leaves are ok but stunted but the bulbs, if it is basal rot, will be soft and may have mould round the base. That's not good news if that's the case - it says destroy affected bulbs and avoid replanting in infected soil. Hope it's not. |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 21, 2012 6:18:38 GMT
Oh gawd - I do hope not - how do I find out - dig down and see what the bulbs look like??
RF
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 21, 2012 10:03:13 GMT
Just emptied one of my pots and Jasmine is right, no roots and the bulbs are rotting. It's amazing to me how they have managed to grow as much as they have. The blue thing is my finger ;D to give an adea on size.  |
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Post by Tig on Mar 21, 2012 11:31:08 GMT
What a shame, but good to know what it is for future reference.
It must be mighty cold where you are Chuckles!!! That finger looks almost frost-bitten ;D
x Tig
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 21, 2012 12:19:47 GMT
Oh no... well I better get digging and see if that is what mine have...
RF
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Post by carolann on Mar 21, 2012 12:37:12 GMT
I just love this pic Jilly so Spring it has cheered me up so thank you forgot yesterday to put a on this pic, sorry Jilly. |
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 21, 2012 13:06:54 GMT
This is just lovely Jilly from me That is certainly one a little beauty Jilly, bet mum is pleased she kept it |
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Post by Chuckles on Mar 21, 2012 13:14:34 GMT
What a shame, but good to know what it is for future reference. It must be mighty cold where you are Chuckles!!! That finger looks almost frost-bitten ;D x Tig My whole hand is that colour Tig ;D best put some warm gloves on ;D RF, just give them a little tug and you'll know  |
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 21, 2012 13:54:09 GMT
Just emptied one of my pots and Jasmine is right, no roots and the bulbs are rotting. It's amazing to me how they have managed to grow as much as they have. The blue thing is my finger ;D to give an adea on size. Just dug mine up and they are the same - hardly any roots, bulbs have rotted. As Chuckles says I am also surprised that they have grown as much as they have... so I suppose that I can never plant daffs there again!!??   |
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Post by Tig on Mar 21, 2012 15:20:09 GMT
I've just had a read on the RHS site, and according to them "Narcissus tazetta cultivars are resistant. The popular daffodils ‘Carlton’ and ‘Golden Harvest’ are susceptible" There is no chemical treatments for it either.
x Tig
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 21, 2012 16:02:50 GMT
Sorry that's what it was ladies. Didn't have a good feeling when I read about it last night. Like you both said - isn't it amazing how much the bulb managed to carry on before it gave up though. It said not to replant daffodils in the infected area again RF |
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Post by Barbara on Mar 21, 2012 17:58:25 GMT
Is that due to poor drainage. ?
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 21, 2012 19:17:14 GMT
This is off the RHS site Barbara...
Basal rot is one of the most serious diseases of daffodils and is caused by the soil-borne fungus Fusarium oxysporum f. sp. narcissi. The fungus enters the bulb initially by rotting roots, or directly through weaknesses in the base. Look for symptoms whenever the growing bulbs fail and on lifted, stored bulbs.
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Post by Rosefriend on Mar 22, 2012 5:37:12 GMT
I just love this pic Jilly so Spring it has cheered me up so thank you forgot yesterday to put a on this pic, sorry Jilly. Jilly - back to the cheerful side of Spring.... RF |
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